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Kidge's Z3 275 Project

26 Jun 2015, 8:45pm
I think I need to state a few things about this project before we get to far ahead of ourselves here.

Our customer (Kidge) approached us about 2 years ago with a view to having an MX250 built, but on driving an MX5 decided he needed a little more car around him. At that time we had started on WCA's Z300S project and Kidge liked the idea of the Z3 base car. He asked about the possibility of producing a 275 'style' body conversion. Now we have finally made a start on the project the brief is to take one of our existing SWB kits and change the nose, tail and some other details such as side windows to make a good looking car, not a replica as such.

We are treating this as a one-off for Kidge and currently have no plans to produce moulds and kits, we have spent way too much time and money on the SWB project over the last year.

Back to the car, Kidge is planning to use TVR light covers along with some very nicely made brass trims that will later be chromed:



26 Jun 2015, 10:45pm
early beginnings

[SIZE="3"]Thanks for the intro Chris.

Here is a blend drawing of GTB / Z3 panels.

More lights, with added stainless surrounds; the rear p,b,i, led light is made in Aus and sourced through LR Gawley in Markyate. The indicators are led Landrover replacements, online purchase. Side repeaters are the tear drop italian ones.

Crystal 7'' headlights with the clear glass are attractive for transmitting more light.

The wheels are matt silver bmw 6.5 x 15 with 225/60 tyres, giving an overall diameter of c.653mm 3% more than standard.

Below we are cutting up a flat oval SS tube to create two side strips, which are then pinched to give a soft V shape profile.[/SIZE]

Light fr indicator led.jpg
Light led rear p,b,i..jpg
Z3 wheel L new.jpg


oval tube 2.jpg


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13 Aug 2015, 6:12pm
Progress

Here is a photo that shows the front end starting to take shape. It is a combination of Dino and SWB panels.

Z3 GTB first front.jpg
13 Aug 2015, 7:23pm
Another one to watch with interest...!
Looking Good...
13 Aug 2015, 8:01pm
Good god do you guys at tribute never have any down time?!
31 Aug 2015, 10:13pm
DSG4ME wrote:
What about a 275 Nart Spider kit ?



It would be easier to build than a GTB.

Some say the 275 Sypder is the most desirable Ferrari of all as only 10 were ever built. You can imagine how difficult it is to see one on the road.


Maybe.....
1 Sep 2015, 7:19am
That's looking great
When I saw it in the flesh I was aware just how long the front overhang. But the rear is in proportion and it works.

Its always great to see all the separate elements when they blend into the final shape
1 Sep 2015, 7:27am
Very nice...again...!
Whats with the window frames......?
Wind up windows, perhaps.....?
1 Sep 2015, 8:18am
Looking a bit Italiaesque, very nice Chris.

....Italia Coupe that never was...

1 Sep 2015, 12:05pm
Good to see Chris and Dan's progress.

Ollie, It was always our intention to have wind up / electric windows. We have used a front glass guide reversed at the rear and welded on a top window rail from a Fiesta; plus we will use the fiesta door seals.

Inside the door things are a bit tight, but the frame can be inserted / removed with the Lexan window in place; the brackets now being bolt on.

Uncertain about the quarter lights but may look for some windscreen glass with the right curve, no bm paint, but put a stainless trim on the front edge ?

We will try and use the bmw handle door lock mechanism, with a new handle, fitted to the grp doorskin. Kidge.
2 Sep 2015, 1:29am
Coming together nice! Very cool.
6 Sep 2015, 4:40pm
Wow - that is really looking - almost bang on for a 275 short nose.

Honestly think this is your most cohesive design to date.

The SWB is really nice but the modern rake of the windscreen always felt a little awkward to me. But here - it just all works, and the windscreen rake is perfect.

Brilliant work - can't wait to see what it looks like finished. It'd be a massive, massive shame not to produce a kit from this although obviously there are probably very good reasons why it may not be possible.

Kidge you must be very excited :)
6 Sep 2015, 6:10pm
The windscreen rake is just one of the problems I have been wrestling with on my 275GTB/Z3 project (http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5207&page=4). Basically, the Z3 is a different shape - shorter nose, longer doors, higher side window (and different shape), more room between the door and the rear wheel, wider roof, bigger boot lid ... As the old saying has it "If I were going there I wouldn't start from here". Tribute have done an amazing job of producing a nicely cohesive design and on my own I can not match their skill or speed of working but "I have started so I will continue".
6 Sep 2015, 6:33pm
Kit 275GTB wrote:
The windscreen rake is just one of the problems I have been wrestling with on my 275GTB/Z3 project (http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5207&page=4). Basically, the Z3 is a different shape - shorter nose, longer doors, higher side window (and different shape), more room between the door and the rear wheel, wider roof, bigger boot lid ... As the old saying has it "If I were going there I wouldn't start from here". Tribute have done an amazing job of producing a nicely cohesive design and on my own I can not match their skill or speed of working but "I have started so I will continue".


Hi George.
I hope your health/memory are continuing to improve. As we discussed before the journey for you is as important as the finished project, so keep on enjoying it at your own pace.
Regards Chris
15 Sep 2015, 1:13pm
Hello, any news on this project?
2 Oct 2015, 5:59pm
I do love seeing you guys "stiching" a body shell together. :cool:

Keep up the great work, Paul. :)
2 Oct 2015, 6:44pm
Good to see things lining up as a whole - and finished with a Tiger's tail bumper.
2 Oct 2015, 7:05pm
Very cool! The tall tail reminds me of the competizione 275 body. What are the bumpers off of?
2 Oct 2015, 8:03pm
The bumpers are stainless and made for a 275GTB long nose. 3 part rear.
[from Vietnamese sweat shop for Harringtons.]
3 Oct 2015, 6:09am
Egdik wrote:
The bumpers are stainless and made for a 275GTB long nose. 3 part rear.
[from Vietnamese sweat shop for Harringtons.]


Car is looking mighty fine and I do like those bumpers. Do you have a link to the web page for them?
3 Oct 2015, 6:57am
I can't make my mind up now if I want the SWB or the GTB!!!