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SAMMIO SPYDER to RELIANT SS1 conversion.

31 Aug 2015, 5:06pm
HouseMartin wrote:
micky, did the car pass the MOT with those miniature front indicators?
Thanks HM


Hi HM, they might be small but there're LED and "e" marked so there bright and legal :eusa_angel:
31 Aug 2015, 9:29pm
micky1mo wrote:
Hi HM, they might be small but there're LED and "e" marked so there bright and legal :eusa_angel:


Micky, that's good to know, I will search them out.
Thanks HM
1 Sep 2015, 11:06am
Bolt on bits in west Yorkshire keep those led's and they are e marked last time I went they had clear, amber, both with or without a chrome bezel. I have had them on my Jeep for years front and repeaters and no bother with MOT.plus they are fully waterproof. You do need a resistor to fool the flasher unit though. Bolt on bits have an eBay shop if you search rdx land rover in eBay that is there brand then click on sellers other items. I will add a link if I get enough signal I am currently camping in a field near Whitby with very poor mobile coverage. They are not the cheapest but they seem to sell good quality and a good selection of led. Ed
4 Aug 2017, 7:21pm
Many problems and issues have surrounded this car's build which is why the postings on this thread stopped.:icon_sad:

That said the original car was finished on 31/03/2016, then placed in storage on 21/06/2016.

Now, after muck trouble and strife, over a year of abuse in storage and several weeks of restoration work it's road worthy again.

This was done becaue IMHO I think this is still the best "driving" SAMMIO built to date. Not the best SAMMIO ever built, but the best "driving" SAMMIO so it's worth saving. :yell:
The reason for this is simple unlike the traditional TRIUMPH donor this has a strong galvanized chassis (which was original designed to take a fiberglass body-tub) at it's core along with all around independent wishbone suspension, 4 pot servo assisted duel line brakes, reliable 1600cc XR3 engine, 5 speed gearbox ect, ect.
Again it's only IMHO, but as for the SAMMIO styling look for yourself :mmph:







The two chrome blips under the filler cap are extra LED brake lights. My felling is as the real tail/brake lights are very low they wouldn't be seen very well in nose-to-tail traffic were as the higher LED lights would. :shocked: They also help disguise the plinth for the filler cap.:redface:







Note the "recycled" cam belt as a bonnet strap :biggrin1:





We took it for a spin recently and "yes" it's still the best SAMMIO I have driven to date, even though I'm to fat for the seats :biggrin1:
I should also point out it's a Cordite body not a Spyder body
5 Aug 2017, 6:33am
Lovely looking car Micky, good effort. Love the upcycled cam belt bonnet strap, simple and effective idea.

I'd say it could do with some racing roundels to break up the sides, which always look a bit plain without them on the doorless Sammio bodies.

If it were mine I'd also replace the steering wheel and seats with more period looking items, but that's just down to personal taste.

Oh, and well done for getting another Cordite finished, it's a rare beast indeed!
5 Aug 2017, 5:14pm
MR TOWED Thanks for the comments.
A lot of bits and pieces when missing while it was in storage, the steering wheel and two wire wheels were just some of them!!!:sad:

I have a replacement steering wheel in wood just waiting for the boss to arrive.
Still not sure about some roundels and a stripe but I have been trying to get some "off white" roundels similar to the ones fitted to the blue SAMMIO G46.

The cam belt idea works very well particularly as it tents to fold in front of the radiator keeping it clear of the cooling fan. :surprised:
5 Aug 2017, 5:50pm
How about Yellow roundels for a change?
6 Aug 2017, 9:18am
Micky - Nice to see the car painted and on the road. :cool:

Mister Towed wrote:
...well done for getting another Cordite finished, it's a rare beast indeed!


Is this the only Cordite on the road with no hump?

Cheers, Paul. :)
6 Aug 2017, 9:44am
Redratbike Aren't yellow roundels something to do with Ferrari!! :peep:

Paul L I think your right!!
The original body had no hump, no doors and no fiberglass baulkhead!!
If I remember correctly the body came from the "Ribble" camp!!:neutral:

Should be ready for the MOT this coming week, then after some "road development" onto E-Bay!! :icon_biggrin:
6 Aug 2017, 10:31am
micky1mo wrote:
Redratbike Aren't yellow roundels something to do with Ferrari!! :peep:


Barry Sheene rode a Ferrari?



Who knew?

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9 Oct 2017, 5:21pm
Did you have to IVA this? The windscreen frame is part of the chassis on the SS1 (and has some roll reinforcement as I recall...) so cutting it off might offend the authorities.....
9 Oct 2017, 9:33pm
Mistrale wrote:
Did you have to IVA this? The windscreen frame is part of the chassis on the SS1 (and has some roll reinforcement as I recall...) so cutting it off might offend the authorities.....


Oh god here we go again
9 Oct 2017, 9:34pm
micky1mo wrote:
Redratbike Aren't yellow roundels something to do with Ferrari


I just have a thing about yellow roundels ha ha
10 Oct 2017, 6:21am
Hadn't heard about the yellow roundels thing, but yellow was the original Ferrari team racing colour, so yellow roundels probably wouldn't have been used on their yellow cars.
10 Oct 2017, 9:57am
redratbike wrote:
Oh god here we go again


Oh do indulge me, please? I realise the issue of IVA and the Sammie has been covered, but the question I was asking relates to the peculiarities of chassis on the Scimitar.

If you re-body a Z3, IVA not required.
If you re-body a Z3, but remove the windscreen surround - IVA is required as it is deemed part of the structure.

If you re-body a Spitfire, Herald etc. , the screen comes off with the body so it is not part of the chassis - IVA not required.

On the SS1 however, the screen IS attached to the chassis..... and therein lies my question! Not trying to declare that a car is illegal, just interested in the interpretation in this circumstance.
10 Oct 2017, 10:53am
The SS1 has a chassis so the screen can be removed .
10 Oct 2017, 1:52pm
Mistrale wrote:
Did you have to IVA this? The windscreen frame is part of the chassis on the SS1 (and has some roll reinforcement as I recall...) so cutting it off might offend the authorities.....


Scroll through this and you will see that the windscreen surround is part of the fibreglass structure......and you will see how much roll reinforcement it provides.....

http://www.scimitarweb.co.uk/sgwrs/viewtopic.php?t=1510
10 Oct 2017, 4:51pm
Only if you strip a Scimitar SS1 will you know how its constructed!!

The windscreen is part of the body tub which is a one piece construction made-up of the windscreen/bulkhead/floor pan.
This whole assembly can be unbolted from the chassis.
If you take the time and trouble to look at the link below (thanks Oxford 13/60) this whole assembly can clearly be seen, windscreen in place, being lifted over the chassis and the chassis can also be clearly seen with-out the body tub assembly fitted.

http://www.scimitarweb.co.uk/sgwrs/viewtopic.php?t=1510

In this construction I chose to use the body tub with-out the windscreen surround because it makes the build quicker, easier and stronger. Even the original floor carpet can be re-used :roll:

So IMHO, no IVA required :dance:
10 Oct 2017, 5:03pm
Cool - thanks for the info!

False confidence in the strength of the windscreen surround when I had my 2 then!!!

Could be very tempted by this....
10 Oct 2017, 5:34pm
The build should be "on the road" in a few weeks.
When it is your more than welcome to call-in and have a test drive. :yo:
10 Oct 2017, 9:13pm
Mistrale wrote:
Cool - thanks for the info!

False confidence in the strength of the windscreen surround when I had my 2 then!!!

Could be very tempted by this....


Apologies ...if you saw some of the recent posts you would have understood
10 Oct 2017, 9:13pm
Mistrale wrote:
Cool - thanks for the info!

False confidence in the strength of the windscreen surround when I had my 2 then!!!

Could be very tempted by this....


Apologies ...if you saw some of the recent posts you would understand
12 Oct 2017, 8:47am
So much love for my little SS1 :-)

As you can see from the pictures, with a standard factory roll hoop behind and the windscreen surround (which has a couple of steel tubes inside, running to the chassis) in front - it held up remarkably well and allowed my son to walk away unharmed.

Personally, I will always insist on a roll hoop in SS1s (and in fact we amended our competition championship regulations to include this requirement for roadgoing class) but it would ruin the lines of an open car. Perhaps a couple of hoops behind the seats would be better than nothing?