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Sammio - son of original creator is called Sam , middle name Owen , hence Sammy O
Cordite - Sammios were originally built in a unit on the site of an old Cordite factory at Holton Heath in Dorset
Miglia - a name suggested to the Miglia builders main man by the creator of Sammio's when he asked for suggestions of an alternative name to register his one off Sammio created from a Cordite body on a Herald chassis and stretched nose to accommodate a Rover V8 ( which was inspired by a one off build of a Sammio on a Spartan chassis for a customer in Essex - who incidentally sold it as an unfinished project to Miglia and it became the German Miglia )
Ribble - new name attached to the Sammio brand when it moved into premises next to the River Ribble in Lancashire .
Tribute - name chosen by Chris Welch for his creations as he was well aware his clever re-bodies were never going to be exact replicas of the cars they were emulating .
Sammio went to Ribble and now announced transfered to Mike ,he is continuing under the old name sammio.
Cordite -Navigator-Cordite.
But he will continue the biz with no service at all. With the same argumentation he will act by your bildings.. That is not what we need. May he build cars for his own, but not accepted by the market. May in ebay below materialcost possible.
So a bid time, think we find a solution to offer that with a professional alternative to inshure further development and scene support and car development also without him.
Champs to clearify some reflections here..
Here is still a aggreed order canceled.
based at a strong promotion from Andy he is the best...
With a blue sky statement about the expected workload without any facts....In the same time i got offered a Sammio without a full restored frame with BMW engine ???. Is that a joke? I do not need a other engine? But may a restored ???
Again that is a blame for this community how the involved respective bizpartner together act and support...
That has to be changed and i am convinced it will change through marketbehavior and missing bizincome....
Yes you are right. .
Champs lets summerize:
The bizhandover from Sammio over Ribble to Replica Rides hase failed.
In missing communications and cooperative behavior between the involved bizactors plus:
This has nothing to do with a Brandname...
Which is saying nothing...It has to do to understand the changes in the market, regulations and registration law restricted bottlenecks which he can't influence...Also not with tricky games to get rid of the aggreed royalty fees.. Its a simple companyname registration which not help up...
His behavior was driven only political with bullshitting arguments..
The topics to improve:
Very bad market- and commercial baseknowlage.
What is going on in the market?
What is the drivingforce?
What is the customerneed?
What are the minimum requirement?
What are the needed efforts?
Outcome:He spending money in restauration of given concepts which fail in commercial braketrough and positive turnover based at the ongoing marketchances...
If I am Owner and Investor, with this outcome I had him fired....
Paul yes , the sammio has to get rid off the build on sheap crap image. Here is not helping up, when you building 30 years in the same behavior in more less private hobby.
See to reached effective prices for ready build cars....
The other thing is the further development by a visible End of Lifetime Circle. Paul some noticed about it?
If you miss it,you may can't drive the tomorrow builded rebodycar at public streets... (-;...
Garyh absolutly right, seems to me it is actual blocked trough get rid royalty fees gambling as commercial solution as alternative to bring a better product...Garyh read the last from Andy open announced sales specification which is never build during the circumsdances in the wrong directions. Thats include a lot of know how as step one:
Improve the existing productrange...Whats here talking about mould qualities was none from the beginning. But the newbuildingconcept include step2....
Steps two was: change the base concept to better positioning of the product in the market as key for better sales performance and future requirements. This was including the marketdevelopment of the basecars as costinfluencer plus a big step foreward in a other chassis/drivingtrain,engine concept plus more economical buildingtechnics...
So as summerize:
every body can count:
Minimum requirements for turn key buildet cars:
-refurnished/restored or new build chassis.
-new bakes and dampers
-overholed suspension drivetrain
-overholed engine and gear
-Carbody kit plus interior
-Instrumention
-wheels and tires
-assambling
If you will inshure against customerclaims
and your positive income to exist..
Do you think its possible against a archieved average pricerange in the market between £4000 and £ 4800???For the oversees you take in concideration the exchangerate,finance the shipping,the afterwork for registration plus registrationcosts...
That the main different against a funny hobby with sale few years later to finance the new project...
Rene you are full of greeve about Mike,you can't expect Mike to repair Andy's faults.
You made a buisiness deal with Andy,not with Mike.
Andy delivered you a crappy build car with a rotten chassis,did'nt you inspect it before you payed him?
As i look at the picture Paul posted i should have my thoughts about the rust on the chassis and have asked Andy to show that the chassis has been restored.
At the time you thought you had a buisiness opportunity to make money on the ribble brand selling turn-key cars in Germany,now it turns out the car failed TUV you can't make money selling these cars and the Ribble company gone bust.
So you lost money........well,thats a buisiness risk.
Mike took over some crappy moulds,has done some repairs on cars he did not build but enough is enough.
Mike has no responsabilaty of the crap Andy has sold,he is developing this on his own way and i am sure he will succeed in this with or without your useless comments.
Perhaps i will order a Sammio in the future,i know i buy a GRP shell which is build on a 40 year old car and see it is my responsabilaty to inspect the work that's been done,or do it myself.
So take your loss as a man,repair your crappy chassis yourself and send the bill to Andy and stop moaning about Mike.
I am sure all the Sammio enthousiasts here will support Mike in his effort to make the Sammio brand a solid company and and are not waiting your rants.
René(the other René,not from Germany but Holland)
It's quite clear that Mike is not responsible for the issues you have with what you bought from Andy. Your contract is with Andy/Ribble and whilst Mike has done what he can, he is not responsible for every fault of the Ribble company.
Whilst I can understand your need to vent, your financial and contractual issues are not going to be resolved on this forum, you need to follow the correct legal channels, thus continuing to vent here is going to do nothing but get you wound up.
I'm going to close this thread as I see no point in it continuing.
