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BMW powered Sammio

17 Jan 2014, 7:42pm
Here are a few photos of the rear anti-roll bar or wheel bracing bar fitted to my axle.
I have never seen one before but it does seem to work :icon_biggrin:



17 Jan 2014, 7:42pm
On the road first of Feb then?
17 Jan 2014, 7:48pm
Mister Towed wrote:
On the road first of Feb then?


That's a possibility :lie: :lie:

My target is at least to fire it up soon and drive it by then. :flame:
17 Jan 2014, 8:21pm
That camber compensator/arb looks interesting. It looks to me like it's designed to prevent the dreaded wheel tuck when shifting the weight from one side to the other at speed.

Because of the lighter weight of these cars that isn't actually a problem, but you could try it with and without and see if there's any difference.

Good luck getting the car moving under its own steam, make sure to post a video of it running...
17 Jan 2014, 9:26pm
Yeah the camber compensator bar does look good, will it prevent a lot of the suspension movement as well giving you a very firm ride? Good for handling i guess :)

That's interesting that you haven't experienced any tuck under Mr T, the problem was also there on the early spitfires, but i imagine the re-body makes the herald even lighter.
17 Jan 2014, 10:24pm
With only 250kgs over the back axle suspension travel isn't an issue even with four leaves taken out of the rear spring. You might find traction a bit of an issue with a more powerful engine though...
18 Jan 2014, 3:45pm
Mister Towed wrote:
traction a bit of an issue with a more powerful engine though...


It's this lack of traction that I am hopping will act as a safty valve ie; spin the wheels rather than blow the diff :icon_biggrin:
19 Jan 2014, 6:41pm
Got the body in place and roughly fitted the bonnet.
The BMW engine sits well back so the power bulge will be small, the other hole are for the dizzy cap and the radiator corners.





I was going to make a few humps to cover the "sticky-out" bits but found this on the shelf.



I think it looks the part, better than a scoop or bulge. :roll:

Looking at the two I think the Navigator bonnet has a lot more room underneath it and with hind-sight would have been the better bonnet to use on this project as I think it would have covered the whole engine with no cut-outs.
There may even be enough room under a Navigators bonnet for a V8. :eusa_think: :eusa_think: (the next project looms) :eusa_think: :eusa_think:
19 Jan 2014, 6:44pm
Forgot to say it will be running by the end of the week :eusa_liar: Promise :pray:
20 Jan 2014, 6:53pm
That BMW engine fits pretty well, all things considering.

I must confess that after seeing Mister Towed's bonnet, I think 4 mini scoops would look better than 1 big one.

But what do I know? :icon_wink:

Good luck, Paul. :)

PS

micky1mo wrote:
... I think the Navigator bonnet has a lot more room underneath it...


When I finally get to the stage of fitting my bonnet, I hope that means less work for me. :pray:
21 Jan 2014, 7:19am
Or go with three scoops...
21 Jan 2014, 9:11am
Axel wrote:
Or go with three scoops...


Like the photo work :icon_razz:
21 Jan 2014, 10:45am
If you do a search Micky , you will see another Mick has kind of beaten you to it on the V8 Navigator / Cordite front.

Mikmiglia started building a V8 Cordite back when still involved with Sammio factory.

This build looks interesting. I agree with the several smaller bulges comment , btw. but its your car , your choices.
21 Jan 2014, 10:46am
The flexibility of these little bodies still amazes me. They are just great for producing a true 'special'
I think some people in the kit car industry pull faces at their single skin design. many manufacturers choosing to create more complete shells with inner structures etc. but it is the simplicity of these cars that makes them so easily adaptable and , for me , keeps them interesting and appealing.
21 Jan 2014, 11:12am
EL PRIMER wrote:
If you do a search Micky , you will see another Mick has kind of beaten you to it on the V8 Navigator / Cordite front.

Mikmiglia started building a V8 Cordite back when still involved with Sammio factory.


I can't find any more info on this V8 build, can anyone help :redface:
21 Jan 2014, 11:47am
PM Sent Mike
21 Jan 2014, 12:13pm
micky1mo wrote:
I can't find any more info on this V8 build, can anyone help :redface:


Mike deleted most of the thread back when he was trying to deny that his V8 cordite had anything to do with the Sammio range so that he could take moulds and build them under the miglia name.
21 Jan 2014, 12:21pm
EL PRIMER wrote:
... If you do a search Micky , you will see another Mick has kind of beaten you to it on the V8 Navigator / Cordite front...


El Primer - Unfortunately, a search will do you no good, as the contents of the original thread were deleted.
( No doubt covered by Andy's PM to Mike, so I'll not post a link to it here. )

Mike - If it helps, here are some photos of the V8 bonnet of the Miglia Speedster.







Cheers, Paul. :)
21 Jan 2014, 12:22pm
[SIZE="5"]D'Oh![/SIZE]

Gaz beat me to it.

Must learn to type faster. :rolleyes:
21 Jan 2014, 12:54pm
micky1mo wrote:
I can't find any more info on this V8 build, can anyone help :redface:

I think the posts relating to this were deleted when disputes started as to the parenthood of the Miglia.
21 Jan 2014, 7:15pm
micky1mo wrote:
I can't find any more info on this V8 build, can anyone help :redface:


Have a feeling the thread got deleted for, ahem, political reasons.

It was shortly after Andy P57 bought the Sammio company, when Mike, who used to work for Sammio, started advertising a rival product that looked suspiciously like the V8 Cordite that he'd been putting together. It seems the thread mistakenly gave the impression that the Miglia was just a rip off of the Sammio product which wouldn't have been a very fair business practice.

All sorted amicably now though apparently... :eusa_whistle:
21 Jan 2014, 7:37pm
Oops!!!!!:icon_redface: :icon_redface:

The day will come when both the Navigator and Miglia will be side-by-side :eusa_whistle:

Anyway, was the V8 ever built and completed
If so how did it drive
21 Jan 2014, 9:20pm
It was clocked at 200mph on the M1, at which point the upturned wheelbarrow on the bonnet flew off and caused a huge pile-up.
21 Jan 2014, 10:42pm
Bless you lot, its a bit bitter on here :pop2: :eusa_clap: