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Sammio Chevaux in France

4 Jun 2013, 6:40am
Usually W = Width, D = Depth & H = Height.

Therefore A = 500, B = 500 & D = 430.

Note:
Sometimes D = Depth of seat only, which would be "C" in your drawing.
But I would read that as D = Depth overall, which is "B" in your drawing.

Anyway I am sure Mr T will be along with the correct answer shortly. :icon_wink:

Cheers, Paul. :)
4 Jun 2013, 7:18am
That's exactly the way I read it Paul.

I'd recommend a very laid back seat for any Sammio. The cockpit is quite shallow, even with lowered floor pans, so upright seats leave your head and shoulders sticking up into the wind blast, which spoils both the aerodynamics and your coiffure, assuming you have hair. IMHO, the bigger the difference between measurements 'B' and 'C' the better.

If you take a look at my seats, they're mounted a long way forward but leg room isn't a problem. I'm 179cm with unusually long upper leg bones, but I have to slide the seat forward a couple of notches for the best position.

Anyway, I've got some sanding to do now so good luck finding the right seats. :wave:
4 Jun 2013, 4:23pm
Sebastien, at the rate you were posting i was expecting it to be finished by now! more pics please :-)
4 Jun 2013, 6:27pm
come in a long very nice... top job what colour you doing... how about matra blue ?.....classic french...... looking forward to more pic's
5 Jun 2013, 5:38am
[QUOTE=Mister Towed;44159]...even with lowered floor pans, .../QUOTE]

I can't place lowered floor pans in a 2cv chassis, so I have to find the most lower seat that I can

You say in one of your message that the highest point of your seat is only 440mm but I read 500mm in the DAX documentation. Do you have another model of DAX seat ?


Thanks Viatron ! I will be happy to give the car for the paint at the end of summer. It should be nice isn't it but I will do the best than I can to respect my Schedule.:lol:

Phil9, The car will be paint in red nd the weels will be paint aluminium. In fact the french official blue's name is "Bugatti blue".
5 Jun 2013, 7:46am
440mm, it maybe the measurement once tilted?
5 Jun 2013, 8:04am
zèbre69 wrote:
[QUOTE=Mister Towed;44159]...even with lowered floor pans, .../QUOTE]
You say in one of your message that the highest point of your seat is only 440mm but I read 500mm in the DAX documentation. Do you have another model of DAX seat ?


No those are definitely the ones I've got. A line measured vertically from the floor to the highest point of the seat is 440mm, but if you measure at an angle from the rear of the seat base to the top it's 500mm.



10 Jun 2013, 2:00pm
10/06/13

Departure for the workshop (at my job) :




Then the work began at 14:00 Friday to finish at 18:30. During 4:30 we finally not advanced much given the number of times to achieve ... First I had to remove the body and the metal frame from the chassis.





The first job was the modification of the 2 rear fixing lugs for fixing the frame to the 2cv's chassis but the space between the fittings and the below the top plate of the frame is 25mm fort the front and only 18mm for the back. The kit manufacturer has done the same attachment to the front as the back and so the back was too high / upper plate of the chassis.


The steel frame is made of square section steal tube 20 * 20 * 2 and the fixing lugs was made in steal section 30 * 5. As the platinum fixing was welded under the tube was the right number for the front (20 +5 = 25mm). but it is much too high on the back. Lets go now to modify these fixing lugs !
Sorry for my English another time !





My second job : replace the rear bar at the good place : 8cm further !



The beginning of the partition:


The rear bar is now at the correct place, We can begin the construction of the luggage’s compartment.




Nest Friday afternoon, we will finish the metal frame.…
10 Jun 2013, 2:20pm
Nice work Sebastien, don't worry about your standard of English, it's good enough to get the meaning across and a lot better than my French. En fait, mes amis français me disent david, vous parlez français comme une vache espagnole.
10 Jun 2013, 7:36pm
As others have said, your English is better than my French.

But based on your photos, the welding is miles better than mine!

I look forward to seeing your build progress.

Bon chance, Paul. :)
18 Jun 2013, 6:27am
Few pictures takes during friday afternoon. 4H30 working non-stop !


first : suite of the partition but for the other side. The first side was done one week ago.



WE have finish the steal part for on the luggage' compartment :




Then we have done the support of the steering column, Not easy to do ! The column is THE starting point for the location of all the controls, the pedals, gearshift lever and handbrake is dependent on the steering column's location.















Column set, the bracket is positioned. For that I had recovered from the donor support sheet of 2CV donor which I cut the sides and the down. I found the tube 40 * 20 * 2.5 which enter with perfection in the U of the support plate and it was quickly decided to cut the two tubes 50 * 30 * 3 angles welded to the frame kit to replace two pieces of tubes but 40 * 20 * 2.5 to allow max out support plate of the deck on the tube, playing "plug welds" and some welds. After initial tests, it was appercu that the brake pedal was too close to the steering column, it has dereferenced points and move the entire 10mm on the right. For this, the reinforcing tube 20 * 20 * 2 has been changed by another 10mm longer.







See you soon !
27 Jun 2013, 7:34am
Great video Sebastien. That's what it's all about, the sheer pleasure of driving something from another era. We'll have to have a European Sammio meet one day...
27 Jun 2013, 7:42am
I am just about to embark on building my frame and am in awe of yours - it's a thing of beauty. Did you produce drawings before starting, or was it "designed" as you went along? Any tips or suggestions?
27 Jun 2013, 8:07am
That was really good, that car really did look like it came from the 50's. I like seeing all the switchgear, and the aluminium panels... And the exhaust!!! Lots of ideas.
27 Jun 2013, 6:49pm
garyh wrote:
That was really good, that car really did look like it came from the 50's. I like seeing all the switchgear, and the aluminium panels... And the exhaust!!! Lots of ideas.


The side exit exhaust is the same as the original Lancia D24, and doesn't the 2CV motor sound great with no baffles! Awesome.
16 Jul 2013, 5:55am
My last job friday afternoon!

At the begening:


Another modification on the stal part.





New floors for my SAMMIO

heating rod :




To fix the security belts










gear shift :



Lot of job !

16 Jul 2013, 5:56am
The weight of the steal part : 79 Kg.


Go home :

16 Jul 2013, 5:57am












grinding of welds :

16 Jul 2013, 9:12am
Lots going on! Hoping to get started on fitting my frame next weekend, one point is this a Sammio or a Ribble? BTW love the hole punch :-)
16 Jul 2013, 10:01am
Thanks viatron !

It's a SAMMIO CHEVAUX indeed, maybe number 2 or 3.

RIBBLE is the new name of the company since january 2013.
16 Jul 2013, 5:53pm
Great work , looks very smart :hail:
16 Jul 2013, 8:04pm
Looking good - will it look a little like this one (at Stoneleigh this year) ?

I thought the exhaust exiting in front of the rear wheel was well executed.

18 Jul 2013, 5:46am
Yesterday evening :

For a test, I've put my frame on the chassis. I will buy wood today and I wanted to know the quantity of wood.