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Fatbloke builds a Spyder

23 Apr 2013, 3:09pm
fatbloke wrote:
A few questions I hope some of you can answer. Am I right in assuming, because of the age of the car, it must have a rear fog light, reversing light, catalytic convertor and white and yellow number plates front and back respectively. If I choose not to fit these for "track" use they would have to fitted when presented for an MOT.

Also, there are some new rules coming in about MOT's around all cars having to be fitted with the original, or equivalent, suspension units (no more scrapping along the ground all you 206 owners!) unless it's MSA registered for race use. If I get the car registered as an MX250 I presume I can fit whatever I want WRT suspension as it's what I care to specify.


No reverse light needed for MOT, CAT needed from '92 onwards for MOT even if its pre 92 and had one originally it doesnt have to have one at MOT. The rest correct except for suspension mate, never heard of that. I wait to be corrected
23 Apr 2013, 7:41pm
You also need a repeater indicator on the front wing..

On the suspension front the mot testers have been asked to look at "radical modifications", very much up to the individual testers.
23 Apr 2013, 8:18pm
Forgot about the repeaters, cheers. Not planning to significant mods to the suspension, wanted to raise the rear and lower the front a bit to get a good rake angle so, hopefully, it'll be okay.
23 Apr 2013, 8:59pm
Can I make a suggestion that the rake maybe better set through radius profiles rather than different suspension settings, also if you do stick with the current idea that you lower the front first and make a decision afterwards. I personally would never raise the suspension on any sports car. The weight distribution on the mx5 is 50/50 perfect and its known as one of the best handling sports cars. I have to say all of this is only my experience and opinion so I am not saying this is gospel. You could end up with a nose heavy (not literally) rwd car..... A whole new driving lesson

PS. If you get it wrong with tyre profiles its easier sorted than redoing the suspension and also if you are talking about investing an expensive matched set of pro fully adjustable shocks and springs then that's different but if you are just talking about swapping the rear springs for taller ones and the fronts for lowered ones then you'll have a confused car and almost certainly different spring rates front and rear
23 Apr 2013, 9:04pm
BTW within a week I'll have photos of my 45mm lowered car with different profiles front and rear and will be able to have a look and let you know what I think mate Hth
8 May 2013, 9:09pm
Help please - I want to put a single wiper onto my MX and the central wiper sits very nicely in the middle of the screen but how do I change the stroke to get a full sweep across the screen?
12 May 2013, 6:12pm
You know, I can't help but think my first dry fit hasn't gone too well :smile:

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12 May 2013, 6:18pm
Looks good sticking its tongue out!
12 May 2013, 6:31pm
Maybe I'll cover it in fur and have a flappy tongue sticking out

12 May 2013, 6:33pm
fatbloke wrote:
You know, I can't help but think my first dry fit hasn't gone too well :smile:

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Age related memory loss is a terrible thing, I just looked at this picture and thought "Oh cr*p, I've given Patrick the wrong boot lid!!", having completely forgotten giving you that additional scrap boot skin from a hardtop kit to cut up for your rear vent "fins". I must be getting old(er) :nod:
12 May 2013, 7:48pm
tonyt wrote:
Thanks thats a great guide, may leave my hinges and just cut them off a bit and bolt them up so they don't rattle.


Mazda hinges now removed, on the Mk 1you have to unbolt the rear of the soft top but not remove it, to get at two 10mm nuts!
18 May 2013, 6:19pm
First go at fitting the kit. Needed a bit of fettling to get the back end on.







For those that have used a Mk2, what did you do to bring the nose down? Mine is sitting way too high and, if you look at the front arches, the wheels are not central.
18 May 2013, 7:49pm
Its looking good, have you fitted the headlights yet? If so you either need to cut the kit or the lightbowls to get t to sit right.
18 May 2013, 8:25pm
No lights fitted yet. Already had to cut the front crash protection to get the kit on as the light bowls interfered. My concern is they now hit the front of the chassis.
18 May 2013, 9:02pm
Not sure about the MK 2 but something is catching somewhere, probably just needs a bit of jigging about, Chris warned me that the 250c involved this at the rear but to be honest I had more trouble with the front, but you will get there with in the end, and it will be worth it.
18 May 2013, 9:05pm
Looking at the pictures, have you tried pulling the front foward a bit? Forget where the wheels centre for now, the kit sits close to the wheels anyway.
18 May 2013, 9:35pm
Thanks Tony. The rear needed a bit of trimming but wasn't too bad. You're right about the front, think the Mk2 might be more complex than the Mk1.
25 May 2013, 5:25pm
Woo Hoo! Thanks eBay - a set of 15" Jag wire wires for nine tenths of sod all. Just need to get some suitable hub adapters and spacers to make them fit properly.
26 May 2013, 7:57am
I had a similar eBay moment when the seller described his wheels as Astin wheels and didn't post a picture. I also needed adapters for my 5 bolt BMW hub. Dave at http://www.orsonequipment.co.uk/ was very patient describing all he measurements he needed and is now making me some bespoke adapters.

There are pictures here of my wheels. Do the hubs and splines look similar to yours?

https://plus.google.com/photos/115660383436295169415/albums/5878154203614611521?banner=pwa
26 May 2013, 8:55am
Haven't got the wheels yet, but from the pictures on eBay they do look similar. Nice to know there is someone out there who can make adapters. Think I might need spacers as well as I have no idea what the offset of these wheels is. 15" diameter and 7" width should look suitable meaty on the car though.

Going to be a strange experience getting tyre with tubes. Luckily my son works in a garage so I shouldn't have a problem getting the right thing.
26 May 2013, 9:21am
7" width is probably to the outside of the rims if they are like mine. That means 5.5" actual rim width for tyres.

Talking with a bloke who runs similar on his Healey and he recommends Avon 195s but says you can run 205s at a pinch.

The adapters bolt onto the existing hubs so act as a spacer anyway.
28 May 2013, 5:39pm
Okay, what's going on here? This is the rear panel extender fitted directly onto the inner bumper and it sits too low.



28 May 2013, 7:44pm
Something is not right somewhere with the alignment mayby its a MK 2 thing, you are entering pioneering terretory, as no body in the world is building a Tribute MX 250 C on a MK 2, and apart from Chris and his demo nobody has built a 250 C on a MK1! Chris has sold three of thers kits and the other one has not started, at least not on here. But hay we struggle on, as long as the rear is supported (mayby spacers?) and looks aligned to the body, it should be ok, mine looks like this.
28 May 2013, 9:15pm
Ignoring my rear end problems (Oooh, Matron!) first, very basic, dry fit on the front after much cutting, swearing, worrying and comments such as "Should have bought a Mk1" from my ever helpful wife.

Excuse the cockeyed bonnet, that will be pulled into place by the locking pins.



Much happier with the shape around the wheel arches.

28 May 2013, 9:50pm
Front looks fine, our German frends are the one's to ask about MK 2's but they are both hard tops and the rear is very diferent on the 250 C, ingnore the wife, what do they know, the car you are building is only car of its type in the world.