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Andy has very definite ideas about how he wants the car to look ....Although he lives in Wales , he is originally from Norwich way , as is Phil9 , Andy asked for a scoop like Phils , Mike has done this.....
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We also managed to get the interior fitted ....dropped floors ( slightly modified as I made the frame before we had dropped pans ) , wooden sides and rear bulkhead and our new steel tunnels ( £60 each and supplied over length to be cut down )
Rear light holes and pods have been grafted on also....
The above picture shows the shorter tail quite well.....Obviously still a Sammio yet a bit different....
Hi there to everyone in the sammio family, thought its time to get myself on here, ok im Andy from cars & classics from wales i have a car restorers and bodyshop and over a long period of time have worn poor garys ears out and he stays so polite!! bless him well im glad to see the excellent feed back on my special gary and mike are the dogs!! cracking job big thanks to them and a thank you to those of you that have bought donnor cars from me!! carnt wait to get mine ready, got a big pile of new goodies to, got to do the finishing touches collecting car next week and droppping off more donnor vehicles to gary as im hoping to become a agent here in wales for gary suppling them in all levels and stages hopefully!! so whatch this space, thanks for reading and keep up the good work to all of you out there
thanks Andy.
hi gary finaly on here!! carnt wait to collect my sammio next week looks fab and great feedback on the car, next lot of donnor vehicles ready to come down, introduced myself on here hopefully will be a big part in these cracking little cars!!
cheers Andy.
Welcome to the fold Andy. I'm sure there's room on here for the odd pro' amongst us amateurs. Looks like selling Sammio's could be a nice little addition to your business empire. Good luck!
Welcome Andy. Looking forward to seeing the 'Special' in paint.
I've taken the liberty of putting you 'on the map'. You are the Cars & Classics based in Taffs Well aren't you?
Matter of interest, what stage are you supplying donors at? As bought or Stripped or Stripped and restored?
Welcome to the fold Andy. I'm sure there's room on here for the odd pro' amongst us amateurs. Looks like selling Sammio's could be a nice little addition to your business empire. Good luck!
=chap68, Hi there and thank you for a nice warm welcome, yeh im looking forward to getting involved with them more deeply!! helps gary and myself exspand business help customers get what they want!! just got to get the hang of using the forum so please bear with me! lol cheers.
In answer to your question , Andyp , I think any level required really ....Andy is keen to act as an agent in Wales and I am sure between the two of us we can accomadate most requests !
I am taking delivery of a rolling chassis next week from Andy , no engine but overhauled suspension etc....its the beginnings of my car / new demonstrator etc...so I will start a new thread when it arrives , don't want to hijack this thread too much !
Welcome Andy. Looking forward to seeing the 'Special' in paint.
I've taken the liberty of putting you 'on the map'. You are the Cars & Classics based in Taffs Well aren't you?
Matter of interest, what stage are you supplying donors at? As bought or Stripped or Stripped and restored?
=chap68 Hi thanks for a nice welcome, yes looking forward to getting my sammio special in paint still playing with colour options at the mo? yes thats me in taffs well so thanks for that!! im hoping to supply at all levels from bear chassis to fully built turn key cars! but with gary having a imput of build to, he has developed a fab creation with the sammio, true old school rod builder keep it simple but very effective to say the least!! when i collect my car im leaving him with a 1970 vitesse rotorflex chassis 2.0 six banger!! to become a sammio for sale, will give someone a chance to buy with there own imput without getting dirty!! cheers.
Hi Andy and welcome to the forum, it's good to hear that you eventually decided to do a Spyder for yourself rather than just providing a few of us with donors
I bought the Herald 13/60 that had been converted to a Vitesse off of you last year and i'm happy to say that i've recently finished converting it to a Sammio Spyder and i've had a great time doing it
When i came over and saw the donor (about this time last year?) i do remember promising you that i'd come over when i finally finished and as soon as the weather cheers up and when i've gained a bit more confidence in it i'll pop over for a blat
I look forward to seeing how yours turns out, especially seeing as you're a top bodyshop bod!
Hi dave nice to hear from you and glad xmu did you proud!! yes it taken me a bit of time to swing mine into action but i knew all along what i wanted and and a bit of difference and i can honestly say gary and mike have got the vision of mine just how i want it to look, looking forward to being a agent to its all exciting stuff, still plaing with colours for mine i have 4 colours in mind for mine so you will all have to wait and see pics will follow!! thank you for the kind comment about my bodyshop, yeh when it warms up and have time pop over ketttle will be on!!
Andy.
1. How do we form the Norfolk Scoop into the bonnet to you "plant on" or "cut in" ?
2. Could we use you metal tunnel section to form the recess under our door cills to run the side exhausts within or do you have a standard tunnel section in fibreglass, current thinking is to mould the section around a length of 150mm dia drain pipe.
Hi there to everyone in the sammio family, thought its time to get myself on here, ok im Andy from cars & classics from wales i have a car restorers and bodyshop and over a long period of time have worn poor garys ears out and he stays so polite!! bless him well im glad to see the excellent feed back on my special gary and mike are the dogs!! cracking job big thanks to them and a thank you to those of you that have bought donnor cars from me!! carnt wait to get mine ready, got a big pile of new goodies to, got to do the finishing touches collecting car next week and droppping off more donnor vehicles to gary as im hoping to become a agent here in wales for gary suppling them in all levels and stages hopefully!! so whatch this space, thanks for reading and keep up the good work to all of you out there
thanks Andy.
Just wondering if there's a progress report on this cracking looking one-off special build? Would love to see the finished car...
TOWED , UNFORTUNATELY THATS NOT THE CAR IN QUESTION !
If things are ''going legal'' its important to keep the facts straight....
I am not intending on commenting on this matter but here is a brief summary , for some background...
Car pictured not deemed good enough ...I agreed on some points but not all of them. Customer had paid up front ( severely discounted to less than a basic Cordite kit and I included fitting - don't ask , I can be a twat sometimes !! ) , so I agreed to do another body.
I sold this body package off at an extreme loss and started again.
As a sweetner for a wasted transport trip and to get rid of the customer several hours after going over and over the same ground , I agreed to double gel and double layup a body , introduce doors , hang them and a few other bits... this now took the price of the package way , way above monies paid...
Debuted car at Stoneleigh as the Cordite promo , customer viewed car , commented on sill alignment and a few points but generally said very happy , not just to me and Mike but went to the trouble of telling other stall holders how fantastic it was and how incredible the finished item would be .....
Fast forward a couple of days ,I get a text saying that after looking at previous pics and talking to wife , car looked like a blow up doll and was crap ....wanted Spyder style bonnet now....
I started to get niggled but generally kept my cool....
We finally agreed on keeping the ugly blow up doll front end and continuing with the build ......fast forward a few weeks and lots of calls , texts , messages , some abusive , some hostile etc. and the day arrives when the car is to be collected.... I had to take Barry Mays car to the trimmers and in my absence the customer arrives and goes nuts .....bonnet scoop and other bits and bobs not to his liking ......some of this I agree with , some I don't ....couple of phone calls and lots of wearing down and I lose my rag - fact.
I became very abusive and totally lost it....not defending that , possibly over reacted but was being poked and poked for a reaction ....several months of long calls , messages , nice guy phone calls followed by nasty guy texts etc....it wears you down.
Car was taken , abusive note left for me to read , phone call the next day from our friend outlining some more points - some justified , some not...after a really strange conversation about Roger Powell from Trading Standards inspecting the car and being there , and then he wasn't when I asked to speak to him and then Roger Powell not actually existing !! , An agreement was reached to supply some missing parts and draw a line under it....text received saying parts not arrived yet , reply stating it was being dealt with and then a forum bashing.....
The above is a summary , it is far more involved than this but just an outline....not looking for comment , would rather you didn't comment actually , just voicing the other side of the coin....I make mistakes , Mike makes mistakes , I forget things , I am human....I do try and rectify and I believe very strongly in my old product and its ethos ....some clearly don't get it , thats fine ....and some people will always want more than you offer no matter how generous the initial offer....
No problem Gary. You've got a loyal following amongst those of us who just 'get' the concept. I'm very happy with the VFM of the basic Spyder package I bought, warts and all, and even my wife is starting to come on board now mine's starting to look like a proper car. I never thought that would happen!
Ahh, now that you mention it I do recall not particularly liking the Cordite demo front end when compared to the perfection that is the 'Lancia' style Spyder bonnet. I didn't think it was that bad myself, but the look on the little girl's face in the background of this pic kind of says it all - 'Daddy, I hate that hideous bonnet'. I think I see some realisation dawning on Gary's face too in an 'Oh my God, what have I done to my baby' stylee.
The problem is unavoidable. The busier you become the chances of having a tw*t for a customer increase, until one day they turn up. Happened to me to.
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