This is a read-only archive of the old Madabout Kitcars forum. New posts and replies are no longer possible, but every thread is still here to browse and read.
Thinking about it...I think there is a charge of £25 to change the V5? so they are probably happy to kop the money rather than have to carry out a free inspection? and it would save bucketloads £ to have to trailer the sammio there and back to wherever!
About 15 years back, the above car was imported with suitabkle customs docs from USA. It was not UK registered. I bought it and dealt with DVLA at Guildford.
What a joke, hired a van and trailer, took it for inspection. Expected a thorough grilling from an expert, I was insistent on not having a Q plate.
A spotty bloke in his late teens arrived in an old rusty Marina, to a pre arranged site, a car park on an industrial estate in Guildford. The bloke did not have a clue.
He spent about 5 minutes looking at the car which had a none Healey Chassis plate, he issued me with the first phase of documents that I asked for, then left.
i doubt if things have changed much, good luck to you all dealing with DVLA, probably find the spotty bloke still works there, probably in charge
Gary,
I am wondering if the form you were referring to is the V627/1 ? if so I assume you fill in the relevent bits like engine and vin no`s and scrawl on that the non standard added bit is the body?
Form V627/1 is available for those who have carried out extensive vehicle modifications, or have built a vehicle from scratch, and wish to declare details of the work carried out. I am just going to print one out.
Utmost respect to you lot for looking into this whole admin minefield, but i have to say that from my perspective my 10hr, rain sodden day to get mine inspected down in Poole was actually really good fun and one of the key milestones of my build that i will always remember.
I realise that it's not for everybody and that i probably still owe Gary a few pints for coming with me to get soaked, but i wouldn't have missed it for the world
Have been to dvla today, it is form V627/1 that is required, I have to fill it out send it back and they will contact me to arrange inspection.
I agree with the comments regarding Insurance and being honest with them, but the registration and insurance are seperate, once registered as a Sammio, that's the name of the car. If you then tell the insurance company you have a modified Sammio then they would insure it as such. Exactly the same as if you had a Mondeo then modified it, if you told the insurance company of the modifications and paid the higher premium there should be no issues!
Be honest with the insurance company and all drive down to Garys place, have a few pints and get Sammio passed by Stuart at VOSA... job done/
NICE IDEA .....But Stuart left on 21st December !
We now have Keith , nice enough chap with an interest in all things classic and has been brought up to speed with the Sammio setup ....we have done one with him so far and it was fine....
Whilst I am happy for everybody to bring them back to me , it can be done elsewhere ...and has been several times.
Just sending the V5 in with changes scrawled on it will just generate a VRO enquiry and you will get a letter asking to contact your local Office ! Back to square one about a month later !!
Sorry about getting the form number wrong ....I was guessing !
It is the same form that is used for radical rebuilds but it is treated differently if you fill it in correctly....I put a statement of events in the extra notes section....You don't know who's going to be processing it and want them fully up to speed on whats going on...
I am updating the website Sunday evening ...I will try and put a form filled in on here at the same time.
It is a very simple process if done correctly , I know travelling to the office and trailering etc is a pain but it is a very small price to pay for getting a correctly registered car.......
Ask some of our European cousins who can't own a kit car under any circumstances how much they would like our system in their countries !!!
Hmm, just actually read the form and it's as clear as mud to me now.
Do you use this form to apply for an inspection or just to declare the changes? As I think has already been pointed out, there is a box to state where the vehicle was inspected...
I appreciate what Dave Cymru is saying about his grand day out to Poole, but some of us are even further afield and it would be useful to get it done locally or by post.
If you can hold off to Sunday , I will print a form out on the forum with the relevant bits filled in and the statement I put on the back etc....
The Inspection part doesn't refer to where the car was inspected but rather to where the car is to be inspected ....sometimes peoples address details aren't the place the car is being kept....
whats interesting about that is it confirms that Offices can inspect off site although my penny pinching office insists they can't !!
I promise to get a version on line Sunday for everyone
Sorry Towed ....didn't really answer your question.
The form is to notify them of your changes AND to request an inspection.
The procedure should be ;
Fill form in and submit to your local VRO , either by post or in person. They will need the latest V5c document submitted as well.
They will write back or tell you that you need an inspection...if in writing they may give you the inspection date , may not.
Take vehicle to office or be at home on the appointment day ( Office procedure varies here ....we have to transport the car , others have been told they can be visited )
subject to your chassis number being present and correct ( please check first as its easier to sort out before !! ) the application should be processed and back in about 4-6 weeks with SAMMIO SPYDER SPORTS in place of TRIUMPH HERALD/VITESSE SALOON
Engine number need not be correct but will be amended on the day ....if no engine fitted , they should put NOT STATED on the form but can't guarantee their reaction to that.
If at all possible , it really is quicker and easier to take your Application and V5c in to the office in person. You can speak to a person , and ask to speak to the inspecting officer as well.....Stuart at Bournemouth was more than happy to talk to other area inspectors about their concerns , if any , I am pretty confident that you could quote Keith at Bournemouth as a reference as well....
Ask some of our European cousins who can't own a kit car under any circumstances how much they would like our system in their countries !!!
And I can confirm that !
The only way I can get a Sammio registered in Belgium is to have the documents changed in the UK, which means, if I want to do the full build myself, I have to go to the UK to pick up the body, get a donor car with UK paperwork, bring it all to my workshop in Belgium, convert the car, and ship it back to the UK for the necessary inspection and change of identity, after which I can finally officially import it into Belgium.
At that point, I can use it under a special registration for classic cars with limits on where and when I can drive to...
So yes, I've been jealous of the UK kit car set up ever since I was old enough to be interested in cars...
Baz from Brussels
PS: I can always get Gary to do the initial rebody and then ship it over, but that doesn't sound nearly as much fun...
That looks like a very neat set up - do you know how it was done? What diff & hubs were used? Ik looks like the suspension arms are recycled from the standard front suspension...
Baz
Hi not sure on all the details on the this rear end, but the spec states,
Rear Axle: second generation Mazda RX7 differential housing with first generation limited slip third member and 3.909:1 gear ratio.
Front Susp.: stock Triumph.
Rear Susp.: custom coilover IRS with unequal length control arms and custom antisway bar (designed by owner.)
I see where you are going with that Paul , correctly registered cars will always sell well in Europe.
66 lives in Stuttgart now ....
There is also a group of European buyers who are happy to have RHD as well because many early cars were RHD and it also is more obviously an import ...
There is also a group of European buyers who are happy to have RHD as well because many early cars were RHD and it also is more obviously an import ...
I'd wondered about that with the Lancia D24's being right hand drive. I guessed (probably wrongly) that it was something to do with weight distribution when circuit racing.
I seem to remember that the Japanese went mad for the last batch of pre BMW Mini Coopers, but wanted them in LHD for the extra kudos of having an obvious import even though they drive on the left like us.
To quote something we used to tell the American forces personnel when they complained about having to adapt to driving on the left when they were posted over here:
The left side's the right side the right side's the wrong side...
