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Barry Mays Sammio Spyder Build....

15 Jan 2012, 4:01pm
Pictures of Barry's Battery box fitted ...



Also pictures of the under bonnet bracing and fitting of the recessed fuel cap in the head fairing....still work to do but its started...



16 Jan 2012, 2:35pm
not sure about fuel cap, strange place....
16 Jan 2012, 4:31pm
Underbody bracing! Now that's what i've forgotten and it would cure my bonnet flexing a treat! <doh!>

Now where did i put the fibreglass? :)
16 Jan 2012, 4:41pm
Underbody bracing!

Do you cut some ply and cover in fibreglass?
16 Jan 2012, 6:33pm
Where does that great side pipe come from - I LIKE THAT
17 Jan 2012, 7:49pm
Gary ...we cut a hockey stick from 6mm ply by using the body bulkhead as a template....hold the ply against the bulkhead and draw a line from top of bulkhead to bottom , this gives you the curve ...draw a parallel line about 3'' in to give you the section.

This then fits inside the bonnet as shown and should keep your lower wing at the right profile to match the bulkhead....hold it in place with a little body filler , hot glue gun , sikkoflex etc. and then glass fibre both sides ...we wrapped it totally but you won't do it in one go , glass both sides and just fold about an inch over the top both times....this will then be sanded to remove splinters before paint.
17 Jan 2012, 7:50pm
MikeD wrote:
Where does that great side pipe come from - I LIKE THAT


Not sure Mike but a customer said they thought it was an Ebay purchase as they had seen them on there...
17 Jan 2012, 8:04pm
lancelot link wrote:
Gary ...we cut a hockey stick from 6mm ply by using the body bulkhead as a template....hold the ply against the bulkhead and draw a line from top of bulkhead to bottom , this gives you the curve ...draw a parallel line about 3'' in to give you the section.

This then fits inside the bonnet as shown and should keep your lower wing at the right profile to match the bulkhead....hold it in place with a little body filler , hot glue gun , sikkoflex etc. and then glass fibre both sides ...we wrapped it totally but you won't do it in one go , glass both sides and just fold about an inch over the top both times....this will then be sanded to remove splinters before paint.


I had planned to bond a metal reinforcing strip into my bonnet but this is a priceless tip. Mine will definitely be wearing ply-glass strengthening fillets when I get to that bit.
17 Jan 2012, 8:16pm
just make sure you mount it far enough forward to avoid the bulkhead but not to close to the wheel....ours sits against the inner arch at the bottom and leans forward slightly in the closed position to make sure it clears ok...
30 Jan 2012, 9:54pm
What else has been done?

Must be due for an update:ranger:
30 Jan 2012, 10:14pm
When I need to make a stiffening piece for a door, trunk, bonnet, I use foam tubing that is used to insulate pipes. Is is available in a variety of sizes. I glue it where I want to lay it. Then fiberglass over the foam. in my experience this creates the perfect "channel" support.

One thing, when you glass in any support you want to avoid using tight right angle lay ups. When the glass cures it will pull on the exterior of the part. The result is that you will end up with a line on the finished side that you will be able to see. If you give the lay up a good radius it will eliminate this.

Not saying this is what Gary is doing. Just sharing from my experience.
31 Jan 2012, 8:35am
jmc14 wrote:
When I need to make a stiffening piece for a door, trunk, bonnet, I use foam tubing that is used to insulate pipes. Is is available in a variety of sizes. I glue it where I want to lay it. Then fiberglass over the foam. in my experience this creates the perfect "channel" support.
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Excellent idea.

That's why I love this forum, there's always someone who's been there and done that when challenges crop up.
23 Feb 2012, 10:26pm
We have started moulding Barry's tail fin.

These are going to be moulded in two halves bonded together with a ply insert , they will be a decent weight and will have an inch wide flange along the bottom to bond/rivet etc the panel on.....

picture of mould below.... The flange around it is mould only - fins will be smaller than shown !!



mould will be released tomorrow , cleaned up , prepped and hopefully gel'd to get Barry's actual fin made.
24 Feb 2012, 9:27am
Have you angled the fin up into the air-stream like the D type jags Gary? Or is that just a hopticul collusion?
25 Feb 2012, 3:26pm
Slightly upwards as per all my reference pics !
21 Apr 2012, 5:40pm
HAVEN'T UPDATED FOR A WHILE .....Simply because we haven't done a lot ....
Barry has expressed an interest in getting the car completed for the end of May and is talking about another soon after , so I thought we had better do a bit !!

All internal wood and bracing is now done...

REAR FIN IS FITTED AND RIVET DETAILED



DOORS AND BONNET ARE BEING GAPPED UP





FUEL CAP DETAIL IS DONE...

9 May 2012, 10:46am
Had a message from Gary. he can't get on the forum for a couple of days but asked me to post this photo of Barry's door latch mechanism:


looks tidy and keeping to the 'KISS' principal so less can go wrong.
19 May 2012, 12:02pm
BARRYS CAR IS NOW IN THE PAINTSHOP....

We had the original Ecosse Blue colour mixed for him , its a colour that was reformulated in 1958 by Standox and is called Flag blue .....

Its going to be pretty close to the old D-type colours....



19 May 2012, 9:17pm
Looking mighty fine. I see the fin ended up being angled up into the airstream after all. :tape:
20 May 2012, 7:53am
Can't wait to see it in Flag Blue as that is one of the colours near the top of my choices at the moment.
22 May 2012, 6:30pm
WorldClassAccident wrote:
Can't wait to see it in Flag Blue


Just for you WCA !!







COLOUR LOOKS FANTASTIC IN THE SUNLIGHT ....

We are fitting the decals hopefully Saturday ....4 roundalls , plates etc.

Lights etc to go on this week as well....
22 May 2012, 6:48pm
very nice well done
22 May 2012, 7:14pm
mmmm nice. Bet it will be stunning when it is fitted up and graphics added.

What colour interior is he having?
22 May 2012, 7:18pm
tlrtone wrote:
mmmm nice. Bet it will be stunning when it is fitted up and graphics added.

What colour interior is he having?


lime green fur fabric .......:biggrin:

no , not sure , black I think but don't know anymore ....Barrys dealing with that...
22 May 2012, 8:57pm
That is a great colour. :cool: