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Spare wheel

8 Jun 2008, 7:24am
peterux wrote:
Still watching these BBS RA's but I think the price will exceed our £40x4 target.
These are less atrractive but might 'fit the bill'.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170224801722&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007

they are 6.5J so not sure if they'll fit?

Any comments?

The ebay auction finishes at 8am tommorow, so let me have your views,

thanks

Peter


I measured up yesterday and think these will fit. I got em for £142 for all 4.
I'll let you all know what the're like and if they fit in due course.

If they are no good i'll re-list them,
Peter
8 Jun 2008, 12:27pm
Excellent Peter thanks for arranging this :) I look forward to seeing if they fit :)
8 Jun 2008, 6:29pm
For anyone wanting to fit a regular size spare wheel you may be interested to know that I've managed to get a Honda CRV wheel cover to fit the Cabrio:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/marlin_bmw_cabrio/2561132711/

I have 195/65 R15 wheels and had to trim about 1" off the depth of the cover to get it to sit close to the boot lid (so it should be deep enough for wider wheel/tyre combinations).

Simon
9 Jun 2008, 7:36am
peterux wrote:
I measured up yesterday and think these will fit. I got em for £142 for all 4.
I'll let you all know what the're like and if they fit in due course.

If they are no good i'll re-list them,
Peter


Great Peter. Please let me know when you want some money....

Robin
9 Jun 2008, 9:41pm
Bad news :-(

Bad news!

The VW alloys I bought yesterday don't fit ! :doh:
I trial fitted one tonight and there is still about 30mm gap all round so no improvement on the 14" steel spare.

The alloys are 6.5J, so now we know they don't fit, either.

There are these around
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genuine-VW-Golf-Corrado-G60-15-inch-Steel-Wheels-NEW_W0QQitemZ170224278241QQihZ007QQcategoryZ28648QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

and apart from being very expensive these are 6J so I'm not convinced they will fit either.

I'm running out of ideas,

Peter
10 Jun 2008, 7:34am
peterux wrote:
Bad news!

The VW alloys I bought yesterday don't fit ! :doh:
I trial fitted one tonight and there is still about 30mm gap all round so no improvement on the 14" steel spare.

Peter


Hi Peter

Thanks for trying anyway. Someone must have an answer - I have seen quite a few Sportsters with the spare wheel cover fitted. Unless of course all that was underneath was a "repair in a can" aerosol....

I will post the question on the Marlin Owners Club forum to see if we can hit a different audience.

Robin
10 Jun 2008, 8:54am
Bummer that sucks :( Thanks for trying (BTW if you relist and don't get quite as much for these as you paid I'm happy to help make up the difference!)
10 Jun 2008, 12:24pm
Patrick wrote:
BTW if you relist and don't get quite as much for these as you paid I'm happy to help make up the difference


Ditto

Robin
10 Jun 2008, 8:15pm
Thanks guys, that's very generous. There seems to be quite a lively market for these wheels so hopefully i'll get close to what I paid.

Peter
10 Jun 2008, 8:42pm
bore is too small IIRC for BINI wheels to fit on E30s or those would be ideal.
11 Jun 2008, 4:24pm
I used a space saver 15" wheel from a ford focus which is a get you home emergency up to 50mph max job but had the 4 x 108 spacing I needed. Fits under the wheel cover really well and has the advantage of being lighter compared to a full size wheel. Bought it off flea bay, stated as used but it had never been on, came complete with michelin unused tyre, cost me £20 if I remember rightly.

Stud spacing may not do the sporster if its BMW based but there must be space saver wheels which will do the job as almost every car uses them nowadays.


From Marlin Owners club forum. Looks like a space saver might be a good option we can find one with the correct fitting...

Robin
11 Jun 2008, 7:34pm
Patrick wrote:
Bummer that sucks :( Thanks for trying (BTW if you relist and don't get quite as much for these as you paid I'm happy to help make up the difference!)


I am happy to help out with any loss on these too.

I was looking around on ebay and can only find 15" 5 stud space saver wheels which should fit under the cover but obviously have 1 to many studs.
So was thinking on a 4 to 5 stud converter which we could carry in the car and fit if we needed to use the space saver.
Any of you had any dealings with stud conveters?

Stuart
11 Jun 2008, 7:39pm
I've got a set of 5->4 stud adapters I got on eBay a few years back for £180. They don't quite fit past the brake pads on the front, but they are fine on the back. I could see if I can turn them down a bit on the lathe.
11 Jun 2008, 7:50pm
Well it is a option that may work for us so we can use a spacesaver 15" do you want to experiment with the idea Patrick as you have the adaptors?
11 Jun 2008, 8:02pm
Sure, I'll have to see if they will fit in my lathe :) I also have a 5 stud space saver in the back of my E46 which will be redundant at the end of the month as I'm having LPG fitted.
28 Jun 2008, 9:28am
Patrick wrote:
Bummer that sucks :( Thanks for trying (BTW if you relist and don't get quite as much for these as you paid I'm happy to help make up the difference!)


I just sold those VW alloys for £145! :smile:

The guy has just collected them.
So no loss, thanks for all your offers

Peter
5 Jul 2008, 10:18pm
Sorry its taken a while to look at this I've been really busy the last few weeks:

This is the spare from my E46:










Fits under the cover just fine



You can't fit it with the spacer attached as it comes up to far. However you could use the 5 stud adapter / spacer as the clamp that holes the wheel on from the back. Problem is these adapters don't fit properly on the front (the bind on the brake pads).
9 Jul 2008, 3:02pm
Of interest to us:

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=107146

E30Zone wrote:
vw golf G60 steelies are 15in, look quite cool and i think are still avaliable from dealers for a very reasonable price.

4x100pcd and the correct centre bore too. not 100 sure on the offset, but shouldnt be far out.

secondhand / cheap, wonder if any of the larger vws of the era used 4 studs and had 15in steelies?


Need to stop by a dealer and find out how much.
9 Jul 2008, 8:46pm
The ones i've seen on ebay are 6J wide so i'm not not sure if they would fit?
I've been looking for an old one to try but not found anything yet.

peter
9 Jul 2008, 9:07pm
hmm 6J may not work I think i have a 6J 5 stud steelie knocking about I'll give that a go without a tyre.
31 Jul 2008, 8:53pm
After weeks of looking, i've finally found something that I think will fit.



It's a VW Corrado spare wheel which I think has the same PCD and bore hole as the e30 BMW hubs.
It fits just fine in the spare wheel well and the cover fits over OK.

I haven't had a chance to try it on the car hubs yet. I'll give it a try at the weekend. The tyre diameter is about 1/2" smaller than my current wheels and tyres but I imagine the cars supension will just adjust for that. It is after all a 'get you home' only spare.
It cost me £10 and about £20 of fuel to pick it up. It's a bit grubby with some surface rust from being stored outside but nothing a good scrub and a spray of Hammerite won't fix.
Tyre looks almost new.



I've only seen one other on eBay in about 3 months, so get watching :wink:
31 Jul 2008, 11:18pm
Brilliant, IIRC VW 4 stud wheels need spacers to bring them in line with E30 offsets, however given the Sportster is all over the place and that wheel is mega skinny you might get away with it. Worst case you'll need a hub centric spacer (which you could use to mount the wheel on the tub)

Bore is the same as is PCD :)
2 Aug 2008, 10:06pm
I tested the VW space saver spare wheel today.

It is ET40 offset so I just fitted it with the same spacers i'm using the road wheels.



It fits just fine and the car handled OK with it on the back or front.
The tyre is a 105x70x15 so is rather skinny and smaller daimeter than my road tyres.
I've noticed that some space savers (not VW) have 80 or even 85 profile tyres, so I might try and get a slightly bigger tyre for it.

There are more pictures here...http://www.flickr.com/photos/peters-bmwmarlin/

So there you are, a spare wheel that fits in the back carrier and fits on the car! Make sure if you are looking for one, you need a 4 hole, 15" rim. Most around are 14" rims.