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Scottie's Tribute A352 build

9 Jan 2014, 8:51pm
Car

It seems that all the work I have recently done has actually not changed the car's appearance at all.
So I decided to make an effort in that direction.

I needed to make a pattern for the centre section between the seats.
It was a bit fiddly, what with paper patterns then cardboard, but I got there in the end, and now have a reasonable pattern I can use to make an alloy section to graft in.

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9 Jan 2014, 10:53pm
I'm sure you have loads of pictures, so apologies for the lack of detail shots but I took a couple of snaps at Carfest South:



9 Jan 2014, 11:09pm
Thanks! Those are two I didn't have. :-)
10 Jan 2014, 4:00pm
Dash

Today I am working indoors; I’m cheesed of being out in the cold.


When I eventually get round to doing the dashboard, I will need all the switches and dials ready to fit.

I have taken care of the rev counter and speedo, but want a push button start switch, indicator switch and a few other bits and bobs.

I dug out an old Jag panel and took the main headlight switch off.

It looks very much like the XKSS indicator switch. So that will do.

The switch has seven connections so I am confident that I should be able to configure it to work.

After a bit of testing I figured out that the “headlight on” position could be

used as “off”

The “sidelight on” position as the right indicator

The “fog light on” as the left indicator

Sounds complicated but when you see the pictures it’s not.

Simple no surgery required! ( makes a change)

I now have a simple three connection switch which will look the dog’s danglers. Once installed in the correct place

Working with all this old equipment, taking it apart, Modifying etc
One thing stands out above all else, QUALITY. It screams at you, there is so much copper, brass and solid metal in everything that was made at that time.

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10 Jan 2014, 4:41pm
his22 just sean your b/head im not copying but its just what I was thinking great minds think alike dave r
11 Jan 2014, 1:13pm
Today

Well it was a nice day today, so I got the chainsaw out to cut wood for the fire.

In the sunshine, I noticed all the bulbs and new plants springing up in my garden.

They were reminding me that I better get a move on with my build if I'm to finish in three months!!

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11 Jan 2014, 3:36pm
Don't worry about deadlines Scottie, my original deadline was to finish the car in January, but it took me until July to get it on the road. It just wasn't the next July...
11 Jan 2014, 7:05pm
I'm not that bothered really Mr T.

It just would be nice to at least get it driveable to enjoy in the good weather, even if I don't get the side screens and roof sorted out by then.

I would really like to take it to Stoneleigh, which is usually in May.
We'll see.
12 Jan 2014, 11:29pm
Dials

I have put together some pictures to illustrate why I did not want to use the "replica" dials that most builders of XKSS's use.

Firstly the D types and XKSS cars had rev counters and speedos where the "zero" position was at "2 o'clock" whereas most other Jaguars of the period had instruments which had their "zero's" in the normal position of 7 o'clock.

This fact bothers me not, and the pictures will show why I prefer standard Jag dials.

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13 Jan 2014, 4:35pm
Support bracket

Still desperate to make the dividing part, (which will be a big
Morale booster for me)

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I first had to make a support bracket for the existing overhang.

I want it to be bolt-on, in case I ever need to get the spring out again.

The filler cap on my car will not be on the inside as I intend to leave it where Triumph put it!

Also, looking at the prices of Monza filler caps, mine will remain as Triumph intended as well!


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A little step only, but has to be done before the middle bit goes in.
13 Jan 2014, 4:52pm
I think you should have the filler cap, you've come so far... do some welding for someone? to raise the cash.
13 Jan 2014, 4:56pm
Hi Gary!

All monza filler-cap gifts will certainly NOT be turned down! :-)
13 Jan 2014, 5:07pm
After following this thread and seen the detail your going through to complete this with such accuracy I don't believe you when you say that your not putting the filler cap where it goes! I'm sure on the finished car the filler cap will be INSIDE the car as per the original!
13 Jan 2014, 5:25pm
Originality

No it bloody well won't Danny!

Sure, there are a lot of features I am going to great lengths to get right,

But there will be several things that are not as the original.

For a start the body is 5 inches narrower than the Jag, that in itself slightly changes the overall body proportions.

I have a boot lid which I made myself because it's practical.

The XKSS had a spare wheel post box!

Before I put the body on, I thought long and hard about repositioning the petrol cap, and again for practical reasons decided not to.

Another difference is, I chose not to have a flip front, I have a bonnet
opening instead. I suppose at a later date if I changed my mind, it would be possible to chop the front off and make it flip!

However, although there are all those differences, when it's finished it
IS going to look very much like the original all the same.
13 Jan 2014, 6:18pm
You're making great progress scottie!! i'm looking forward to seeing the roof installed, if you can make the car enjoyable in most, if not all, the british weather has to throw at us then that would be a real success!
13 Jan 2014, 7:40pm
Roof

I want to be able to drive the car in all weathers, but that will throw up all sorts of problems.

Have a good look at the doors? They are tiny, as far as I can tell, even with the real Mcoy, entry and exit cannot be achieved with the roof on.

Therefore, even in the rain. the roof will have to be lowered all be it briefly,
to allow you to get in and out.

I will try to sort something out in that area, but Jaguar didn't!
Mind you, I knew all this before I started the build, but still could not resist.

Of all the reviews that have been written on the car, they all agree that the "roof" was just an "after thought" Hmmmmmmm.............

Watch this space, but don't expect miracles!
13 Jan 2014, 10:58pm
Good Morning. I am looking at Spitfire based cars and yours looks great.

Is using the steel tub of the Siptfire a good idea, eh?
13 Jan 2014, 11:17pm
I think so. The steel tub remains on the chassis, and the car engine will start throughout the build, so it can be moved about.

What you end up with, is a car that looks like a fabulous Jaguar, but does not have the hefty running costs etc. Also, being much lighter than the original donar, the performance is much better than a Spitfire and so is the fuel economy, go for it!
13 Jan 2014, 11:31pm
Hmmmm, almost like basing it on a modern 6 sylinder car...

...I could post a picture but I seem to have drunk a bottle of wine ;-)
13 Jan 2014, 11:34pm
Wine seems to ruin your spelling as well! :-)
14 Jan 2014, 9:22am
I like the look of your bracing for the central cockpit extension - I think you'll find that's where your hand will naturally fall and take your weight when you climb aboard.

I know you're looking to be as authentic as possible when detailing your XKSS-alike, but you're right not to get too hung up on the tiny details. Most people (including me) have never seen a real XKSS, so your homage won't stand out as a copy. My humble effort actually fooled the chairman of the Lancia owners' club into believing it was the real deal at Goodwood...

I recently read in a copy of Octane magazine that the owner of a genuine 60's $500,000 Shelby Cobra is fed up with being constantly complimented on how nice his kit car looks when he takes it out in public.

Now get on and get it finished and we'll have to arrange a Jaguar v Lancia Le Mans start style b&w photo shoot of us jumping into our cars. :party: :party:
14 Jan 2014, 9:31am
A352

Looking at some of the other builds, especially Paul's, I think perhaps I should make a couple of points.

Chris's (Automotive) A352 is a fairly straightforward build, and if I had chosen to build it as he intended, I would most likely have finished it now.

However, I have chosen to use the A352 body shell to re-create specifically a Jaguar XKSS.

In so doing I have made the build so much more complicated than it would be for a "normal" car build.

I hope this has not put people off, as my build is only difficult because I have chosen to make it so.

I sometimes think "why did I not build a normal one?" But I didn't, because I knew what I wanted.

When I first saw Chris's original the advert on ebay, I could immediately see the potential, and thought- "XKSS I want one"

And here we are now!

So any of you out there wanting to have a go at one, do it! It HAS to be easier than what I'm doing!

Just look at Patoune, he bangs them out in a few weeks! And very nice too.
14 Jan 2014, 10:09am
Cockpit extension

Mister T.

You are spot on with all your comments.

read something you had put on your thread about entry and exit from cars with no doors, and where the left hand was positioned.

My car has doors, if you can call them that!

But I have to use the same method as you for entry, so it was imperative that I had to do something in that area.

When the extension goes in, that will sit on a frame which will also need to withstand the hand!

I can identify with your feeling of elation when your car fooled that chap,

when I had my "seven" on the road, a fella in a Lotus Elise offered me a
straight swap, because he thought it was an expensive original !

I turned him down as I actually proffered what I had, plus he would have been a bit irritated when he found out the truth!
14 Jan 2014, 1:38pm
Scottie22 wrote:

I can identify with your feeling of elation when your car fooled that chap,

when I had my "seven" on the road, a fella in a Lotus Elise offered me a
straight swap, because he thought it was an expensive original !

I turned him down as I actually proffered what I had, plus he would have been a bit irritated when he found out the truth!


Ha ha! Yes, I've had a genuine offer of a straight swap for a 62 plate Astra SRi.

Crazy as it may seem the answer was thanks but no thanks. :der:
14 Jan 2014, 2:13pm
The main reason for refusal is that any Tom Dick or Harry can buy a 62 Astra, but certainly cannot buy what you are driving around!
And that is why he wanted yours!