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Scimitar Based 1950's Style Race Car

26 Mar 2012, 8:58am
Gull wing doors/ windows - yes, something different but also thinking about how a roof would work when there are fixed side windows. With the top on you would need to have some windows attached to the roof to cover the gap between the roof and the side screens. Gull wings would flap down over the top of the side screens. The cut into the roof would also give better access when getting in and out. If it happend to look like a Merc SLR then I can live with that. Not sure I will do it to be honest though

Side stripe will be raised. Not sure if a metal strip or with filler. It should lower the front while allowing a side repeater to blend in a bit.
26 Mar 2012, 9:03am
are there any cars with fly screens that have worked out how to add a roof and addititional screen... or would it be easier to have a spare screen that is taller to bolt on?
26 Mar 2012, 9:51am
I am going for a permanent windscreen. I am paranoid about being hit in the fact by a pheasant. I have had three screen strikes before and don't want to wear a helmet all the time.
27 Mar 2012, 7:00pm
garyh wrote:
are there any cars with fly screens that have worked out how to add a roof and addititional screen... or would it be easier to have a spare screen that is taller to bolt on?


27 Mar 2012, 7:30pm
I have a feeling that's just a shade to stop the upholstery fading in the California sunshine. :flame:
27 Mar 2012, 7:32pm
Whatever it is ....its odd.

Its not one of your photoshopped pics is it WCA ? !! :biggrin:
27 Mar 2012, 7:57pm
My MS Paint jobs aren't THAT bad!

Anyway, I am now working on the idea of a canvas top that can be stored in the space within the humps.
27 Mar 2012, 8:11pm
Can I just ask if any of the existing G46 builders are near Leicestershire/Derbyshire/Notts area? I really need to see one of these so I can sleep at night instead of staying awake thinking about what might be...

LL, what's the (rough) lead time on delivery on an order? And what if I wanted some factory mods?
28 Mar 2012, 7:20pm
Hi Gary,

I am waiting for some news !... A long time now without any.

Regards
Patrice
28 Mar 2012, 8:00pm
Yes Gary, how's Orca doing...?? :)
29 Mar 2012, 7:16pm
PATRICE , EMAILED YOU ....Nike , just about too !!
31 Mar 2012, 10:49am
Hi Lancelot,

Don't worry about email, I appreciate you are probably working 25/8 i.r.o Stonleigh, so see you there for a chat instead....

Cheers :0
31 Mar 2012, 1:55pm
volospian wrote:
Can I just ask if any of the existing G46 builders are near Leicestershire/Derbyshire/Notts area? I really need to see one of these so I can sleep at night instead of staying awake thinking about what might be...

LL, what's the (rough) lead time on delivery on an order? And what if I wanted some factory mods?


AT PRESENT ABOUT 6 WEEKS ...Should become a bit less after the current backlog....

factory mods , no problem....would need to talk them through first , but nearly anything is possible !!
9 Apr 2012, 7:53pm
G46 registration

[QUOTE=lancelot link;28755]AT PRESENT ABOUT 6 WEEKS ...Should become a bit less after the current backlog....

Gary,
I know this is jumping the gun a bit, but have you managed to locate a chasis number on orca for the V627/1 form ?
9 Apr 2012, 10:20pm
Interesting topic. When i saw the G-46 I don't like the back, its way to high in my opinion. I'm sure that with a couple of adjustments the car can be look great!
Is it needed that the body is so high or can it lay down to the wheel arches? If the body line can be lower it looks a lot more aerodynamic.
Here a simple example what bigger wheel (arches) can do.




Maybe some inspiration?
Very expensive 'kit car' from Holland named "the Huet Brothers'. Same idea, only a different price class ;)
10 Apr 2012, 7:13am
The hump in the G46 looks much better integrated than the one on the Huet.

You are not the first to spot the difference changing the wheel arches will make:

10 Apr 2012, 8:06am
Hi, Apart from the rounded wheel arches, mentioned a few times here, I think what you are looking at is more a modification to the donor's suspension set up.

Imaging a Spyder with the original Herald setup using small wheels, no lowering block on the rear and 'to taste' lowering at the front. It would look a lot different and it shows how such tweaking can change the overall stance of the vehicle.

I've not looked at the Scimitar suspension geometry but I could lay odds that there would be some way to lower the rear and get just about the look you want without changing anything on the standard moulded shell.
10 Apr 2012, 8:14am
Jerome, the trouble is that your wire frame drawing is angled according to the original photo. If you straighten the vehicle up the back doesn't look high (to me anyway). If anything the "hump" appears too high.

https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=6013b70cec119f4d&resid=6013B70CEC119F4D!140&parid=6013B70CEC119F4D!135&authkey=!AHI2ApOfuePe2gw

Also, if you replaced the wheels with ones as large as you have drawn, you would need to find something off a 30's Bentley or something. They'd be massive. I have pasted one against the original drawing here



Sorry about the links, but I only have access to Skydrive from here, and that doesn't embed properly
10 Apr 2012, 8:14am
Andy - I agree. I have spent a lot of time trying to work out exactly why the G46 looks so good when stood in front of it yet a bit bloated in the photos. My conclusion is that the flat white colour in the pictures hide the curves and lines.

If you look at the dark one in Charman.tech's thread it looks a whole lot better, even before he started cutting it about.
10 Apr 2012, 8:18am
I'm really liking the wheels and the arches on that Huet.

Yes, I like the wheels and the arches. Mmmm, the wheels and the arches are really nice.

It's just a shame that the rest of it is a bit, well, fugly?
10 Apr 2012, 8:23am
Mister Towed wrote:
I'm really liking the wheels and the arches on that Huet.

Yes, I like the wheels and the arches. Mmmm, the wheels and the arches are really nice.

It's just a shame that the rest of it is a bit, well, fugly?


I don't mind the rear wings...
10 Apr 2012, 8:35am
volospian wrote:
I don't mind the rear wings...


Okay, each to their own but I felt the whole design was rather bulbous and bloated compared to the Sammio Spyder. A bit Pilsbury dough boy compared to Gary's elegant greyhound. Not that I think Gary's creation looks like a dog. Or an American bus. I was just searching for something sleek, fast and easy to picture. :tape:
10 Apr 2012, 8:37am
Yup. Fugly it is (You could make a water feature out of those lower 'eyelids') and some quirky statements in the sales blurb too such as 'The Aluminium dashboard is full of instruments'

But, for those looking at designs for an eventual hard top, they do have a nice line which could (on paper) graft onto a Sammio body here:
http://www.huetbrothers.com/Experience/the_car.php
10 Apr 2012, 8:38am
Volospian, yeah I know.
Thats the reason why I'm asked if the body can lower or is the subframe from the Scimitar so high? If the body can be dropped a bit like this. ;)

before:


After:


I don't know if this is possible with the donor car?