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Spyder_126

29 Aug 2012, 12:42pm
Right

1. donor car bought (Herald 13/60 Convertible)
2. vitesse engine bought
3. another welding set bought
4. sammio spyder_126 now ordered

Now, do I tell the misses now or leave it a few weeks.
Leave it a few weeks I think......
29 Aug 2012, 12:49pm
mas123mas wrote:
Right

1. donor car bought (Herald 13/60 Convertible)
2. vitesse engine bought
3. another welding set bought
4. sammio spyder_126 now ordered

Now, do I tell the misses now or leave it a few weeks.
Leave it a few weeks I think......


You've taken the plunge now, so you might as well own up to your better half. Try putting a positive spin on it like "this is going to be so good for my wellbeing and our relationship will positively benefit from the shared experience." She should definitely buy that or some similar guff. :laugh:
29 Aug 2012, 12:58pm
Just say, I'm buying it for you.... Love of my life! But I would still leave it (coward).
29 Aug 2012, 12:59pm
Mister Towed wrote:
You've taken the plunge now, so you might as well own up to your better half. Try putting a positive spin on it like "this is going to be so good for my wellbeing and our relationship will positively benefit from the shared experience." She should definitely buy that or some similar guff. :laugh:


No I am just going to wait, have a few nice days, then tell her the silent treatment will be OK for a few days, it will be wasted if I tell her now. LOL
30 Aug 2012, 2:41pm
Has anyone purchased or use a DIY Powder Coating Set, as I looking a purchasing an electrostaticMAGIC one.
30 Aug 2012, 2:42pm
Will you carry with that theme on the interior? What wheels?
30 Aug 2012, 2:49pm
garyh wrote:
Will you carry with that theme on the interior? What wheels?


Pantone Body,
Orange chassis,

Black plain interior (poss orange piping), with chrome gear stick, hand brake dials, pedals etc.... but not 100% sure yet.

Wire polished chrome wheels possible, chrome mirrors, light bezels etc.... may change, still trying work out a budget that I can hide from the misses.....
30 Aug 2012, 3:13pm
Pantone IS available for the Gel you'll be pleased to note :biggrin:
30 Aug 2012, 3:37pm
AndyP57 wrote:
Pantone IS available for the Gel you'll be pleased to note :biggrin:


Cheers Andy

Right, that is that is the colours settled, I was wanting a GULF GT40 colour look but not wanting to copy too much, the Pantone is a close match, and with teh orange accessory under the bonnent should be bold but understated (I hope), so I think it should look good, by the way there isn't another one been created like this is there????
30 Aug 2012, 7:31pm
mas123mas wrote:
Has anyone purchased or use a DIY Powder Coating Set, as I looking a purchasing an electrostaticMAGIC one.


I've bought powder from them, but I made my own gun from information in the patent. I made an electrostatic flocking gun for a model railway builder friend at work too. They're really just the same kind of high voltage generator you find in an air ioniser.

Get yourself an old electric oven off freecycle or something for curing the powder. Although in theory you can cure with a hot air gun it doesn't give good results.

Check out the Caswell plating website (the US one) where there's an active forum on coating.
31 Aug 2012, 9:06am
MoriniMan wrote:
I've bought powder from them, but I made my own gun from information in the pate......... Check out the Caswell plating website (the US one) where there's an active forum on coating.


I am going to by the electrostaticMAGIC kit with stand and other bits, plus a load of orange, blue, white, chrome and black powder this next week, looked at the Caswell one looks good as well, not much difference in the price, so I thought I would the one from the UK.

I am going buy a oven to go in the garage in the corner.

Just trying to sort some wire wheel, don't no whether to buy new or risk second hand and have reburished.

Any advice, on cutting the top down on the bulk head.

Is there a point where I need the DVLA to look at the car, before bonding the body or is it case do the work then have it inspected.
31 Aug 2012, 10:39am
Advice for cutting the bulkhead down x2 -

1/ Don't cut through the wiring loom with the angle grinder like I did. My electrics are now starting to cause me problems...

2/ Do try to cut the bulkhead with a convex radius to match the underside of the body shell (someone did this on their build thread and I wish I had). This will make sealing it simpler when you bond the body on.

I bought second hand wires from ebay (£80 for five) then sandblasted them and sprayed them myself, total outlay was about £140, plus about £280 for a set of Triumph splined adaptors (long for 14 & 15" wheels not short type for 13's). If you want new wheels then you could do worse than speak to the MGB Hive -

http://www.mgbhive.co.uk/wheels.html

DVLA inspection comes after bonding on the body but before cutting off the rear boot outriggers or the ends of the front crossmember.

Good luck. :)
31 Aug 2012, 10:44am
Mister Towed wrote:
Advice for cutting the bulkhead down x2 -

1/ Don't cut through the wiring loom with the angle grinder like I did. My electrics are now starting to cause me problems...

2/ Do try to cut the bulkhead with a convex radius to match the underside of the body shell (someone did this on their build thread and I wish I had). This will make sealing it simpler when you bond the body on.

I bought second hand wires from ebay (£80 for five) then sandblasted them and sprayed them myself, total outlay was about £140, plus about £280 for a set of Triumph splined adaptors (long for 14 & 15" wheels not short type for 13's). If you want new wheels then you could do worse than speak to the MGB Hive -

http://www.mgbhive.co.uk/wheels.html

DVLA inspection comes after bonding on the body but before cutting off the rear boot outriggers or the ends of the front crossmember.

Good luck. :)


Cheers, Point 1 NOTED, Point 2 great idea will do
Going to make a offer on some with the splined adapters, might be able to shot blast my self then spray, will see.
31 Aug 2012, 11:17am
mas123mas wrote:
Cheers, Point 1 NOTED, Point 2 great idea will do
Going to make a offer on some with the splined adapters, might be able to shot blast my self then spray, will see.


Blasting second hand wheels is rather dirty and time consuming but well worth the effort -











Quite a difference, don't you think? :icon_cool:
31 Aug 2012, 12:20pm
Mister Towed wrote:
Blasting second hand wheels is rather dirty and time consuming but ........
Quite a difference, don't you think? :icon_cool:


Excellent finish, I have cabinet blaster not sure if I will the wheel in it, it might will check when return home.
31 Aug 2012, 12:27pm
I blasted my chassis too (I doubt that'll fit in your cabinet!). I'm so glad I did as it revealed a lot of hidden horrors that would've caused major headaches later if I hadn't tackled them.







All fixed now and should be good for another forty odd years :)
31 Aug 2012, 7:31pm
mas123mas wrote:
Just trying to sort some wire wheel, don't no whether to buy new or risk second hand and have reburished.


It's the splines you have to worry about. If they're worn then the cost of having the wheels rebuilt would go quite a long way towards buying new.

Often the splines in the wheel and those on the hub don't match over their entire length, so you can see or feel the difference between the worn and unworn sections.

The recommendation is new wheels and new hubs, because a worn wheel will wear a new hub and vise versa, but in reality as long as the splines are only a little worn (and you make sure your spinners are always kept good and tight) then they're going to last well enough for the amount of use a vehicle like this is likely to get.

I bought a set of wheels where the splines are marginal and I probably won't use them, but they did only cost £26.
1 Sep 2012, 4:42am
MoriniMan wrote:
It's the splines you have to worry about. If they're worn then the cost of .................... they did only cost £26.


Think I will get new a couple of months down the line.

If my chassis is like a sieve as it seem must have been, what is best thickness of steel to use. 1.2, 2, 3, etc as it seems most have varied bearing in mind, I don't have any laid about in my garage, so what ever size I need I will have to buy (just wish I still worked for British Steel, never thought I would think that, nevermined say it).
1 Sep 2012, 6:46am
Morning Mas, I used 1.2mm, easier to fold. I also have that powder coating equipment you mentioned, just havn't used it yet.
1 Sep 2012, 7:59am
garyh wrote:
Morning Mas, I used 1.2mm, easier to fold. I also have that powder coating equipment you mentioned, just havn't used it yet.


Afternoon Gary, Most people have used 1.2mm, think I will. Might just get to see what it is like.
1 Sep 2012, 8:18am
mas123mas wrote:
If my chassis is like a sieve as it seem must have been, what is best thickness of steel to use. 1.2, 2, 3, etc as it seems most have varied bearing in mind, I don't have any laid about in my garage, so what ever size I need I will have to buy (just wish I still worked for British Steel, never thought I would think that, nevermined say it).


Most of the material in the main rails is 16swg (1.6mm) with some reinforcements and internal stiffeners in 14swg (2mm) or perhaps even 12swg (2.6mm). Something that's very often overlooked is the re-inforcement plate that boxes in the side rails at the rear where they meet the outriggers as these don't seem to be available as a repair panel. The DVLA re-bodying rules appear to allow boxing in channel sections, so you could do that along the entire length. Some of the replacement side rails and outriggers are very thin, as little as 20swg (1mm). Chic Doig supply heavy duty side rails in 14swg.
1 Sep 2012, 8:36am
Re-Bodying Rules

MoriniMan wrote:
Most of the material in the main rails is 16swg (1.6mm) with some reinforcements and .... The DVLA re-bodying rules appear to allow boxing in channel sections, so you could do that along the entire length...........duty side rails in 14swg.


Has anybody got the documentation or a link to the re-body rules, as looking on the direct.gov.uk is like pulling teeth.