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Old 7th June 2021, 09:53
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I’ve been in contact and looking to go down tomorrow to view.
Congratulations Rob, was it this car?
I bought replica rear lights which are still available on ebay (see https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402752065161 ) .They needed bulb holders but I had some Toyota MR2 ones left over from my F355 replica build so I used those ( I also need shorter bulbs as the longer ones fouled the plastic lens).
I also bought chrome rings on ebay but these don’t appear to still be available.
Both of the above can be bought from Superformance but are a bit more expensive (see http://www.superformance.co.uk/246/lights.html)
Some people use Opel GT (1969 to 1973) rear lights which are similar to the Dino ones but they are pretty rare these days.

Superformance are also pretty competitive price wise for badges (http://www.superformance.co.uk/246/badges.html) Front Dino badges can also be found on ebay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333632525...8AAOSwobpgFA5p)
Like you I bought a project car, a Classic replicas kit, it came with the pictured bumper fixings which bolt through holes in the underside of the bumper and on to the chassis.

I also have a set of rear bumpers which have welded fixing points for mounts which resemble those of the original Dino and a picture I’ve found of the original Dino mounting brackets.

All the best
Neil
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Old 7th June 2021, 19:52
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Hi Neil
Yes it was that one I purchased it arrived today, it’s going to be a body off restoration as the chassis is solid but the paint is flaking.
The doors bonnet, boot had been removed and painted ready to go back on by the last owner, all interior and glass had been removed so half the work has been done for the body removal.
brand new rear lights and chrome bumpers with the black rubber round the Center line came with the car but not fitted, if anyone can help with a drawing / picture and measurements for brackets to fit this type of bumper would be a great help.
Any tricks or don’ts on the body removal.
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Old 9th June 2021, 11:19
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chrome bumpers with the black rubber round the Center line came with the car but not fitted, if anyone can help with a drawing / picture and measurements for brackets to fit this type of bumper would be a great help.
Rob

Hi Rob
Do your bumpers have the bumper fixings as per the attached pictures?
If they do then they are either original Ferrari Dino bumpers or the stainless steel replacements made by Harrington group.

In either case I'm afraid you are on your own with regard to bumper brackets as they will require some special one off mounts to fit your Deon chassis.

On my car my plan is to weld some tubes to the chassis and fit something similar to the original ferrari dino T shaped mounting brackets (pictured in my previous post) which will slide inside the tubes.
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Old 9th June 2021, 14:35
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Do your bumpers have the bumper fixings as per the attached pictures?
If they do then they are either original Ferrari Dino bumpers or the stainless steel replacements made by Harrington group.

In either case I'm afraid you are on your own with regard to bumper brackets as they will require some special one off mounts to fit your Deon chassis.

On my car my plan is to weld some tubes to the chassis and fit something similar to the original ferrari dino T shaped mounting brackets (pictured in my previous post) which will slide inside the tubes.
Neil
Hi Neil
They are the brand new stainless steel type as per your pictures, I’m about to remove the body but before I do I’m going to offer up the new bumpers and Mark the fitting position, when the body is off I will make a frame ready to take the through brackets in your first set of pictures, any chance of giving me the dimensions of those brackets so I can manufacture what I need also do you know the gap size the bumper stands off from the body.
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Old 10th June 2021, 09:37
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They are the brand new stainless steel type as per your pictures
That's a result A friend of mine has a set of Harrington bumpers on his 250 California replica and they are very impressive.

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any chance of giving me the dimensions of those brackets so I can manufacture what I need also do you know the gap size the bumper stands off from the body.
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Rob
I've measured the distance between the bolt centres on my bumpers (see picture), it's 96mm, so add to that however much you think you need for side to side adjustment (I would guess about 20mm to each side) to give you the length of the top of the T piece.
The length of the tube part depends very much on where your frame is positioned, a bit of extra length will allow it to slide forwards and backwards until you get the gap between the bumper and body correct.
As for what the correct gap should be I have no idea so I will be setting mine to what I think looks best.
I will be fitting mine close to the bodywork as they are original Dino bumpers and, quite frankly, are so thin that they are for decoration only, in the event of a hit they will just deform so I can't see them doing much damage to the bodywork.
From what I've seen the Harrington bumpers are a much more substantial item so I would move them away from the bodywork a bit to avoid bodywork damage in the event of a crash.

I've attached a couple of pictures of the fronts of Dinos which give a bit of a view of the gap between the bumper and the bodywork.

If you want to look at some more pictures for reference I would recommend Fantasy junction's website. They are a dealer of collector cars in the USA and they take loads of closeup pictures of their cars for sale https://www.fantasyjunction.com/sold/search?q=dino+246
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Old 11th June 2021, 19:41
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That's a result A friend of mine has a set of Harrington bumpers on his 250 California replica and they are very impressive.


I've measured the distance between the bolt centres on my bumpers (see picture), it's 96mm, so add to that however much you think you need for side to side adjustment (I would guess about 20mm to each side) to give you the length of the top of the T piece.
The length of the tube part depends very much on where your frame is positioned, a bit of extra length will allow it to slide forwards and backwards until you get the gap between the bumper and body correct.
As for what the correct gap should be I have no idea so I will be setting mine to what I think looks best.
I will be fitting mine close to the bodywork as they are original Dino bumpers and, quite frankly, are so thin that they are for decoration only, in the event of a hit they will just deform so I can't see them doing much damage to the bodywork.
From what I've seen the Harrington bumpers are a much more substantial item so I would move them away from the bodywork a bit to avoid bodywork damage in the event of a crash.

I've attached a couple of pictures of the fronts of Dinos which give a bit of a view of the gap between the bumper and the bodywork.

If you want to look at some more pictures for reference I would recommend Fantasy junction's website. They are a dealer of collector cars in the USA and they take loads of closeup pictures of their cars for sale https://www.fantasyjunction.com/sold/search?q=dino+246
Hi Neil
Any chance of a few pictures of your bumper brackets in place.
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Rob
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Old 12th June 2021, 08:24
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Any chance of a few pictures of your bumper brackets in place.
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