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alackofspeed 27th July 2009 21:58

Looking good John. That's an impressive number of silicon boost hoses!

Are you going to create a form of arch liner to stop the N/S rear wheel throwing a stone through the oil cooler?

Is the dipstick located between the runners for cyl 2 & 3 to make access easier? Normally it's in frontof the manifold.

limpabit 28th July 2009 06:28

The gearbox is a Rover Coupe turbo, beefed up with steel caged bearings to cope with the extra power. Gearboxes hjave been know to cope with 500BHP + so should hopefully do the trick.

The mounts was made by my good friend and fellow 5EXI own Merlinman. Took the car done to his workshoshop to get the made. It was there we discovered the space in the chassis was not enough with the 6 speed box. So went the Rover route as I had all the change cables etc.

The dip stick I've just rested there for the time being. It clips under the metal support frame at the side of the inlet that holds the plastic OE cover. But just wanted the dipsitck out of the way for now.

As for the silicon hoses. My wallet is still quivering with the expense it cost. Silicon water hose front to back for the rad as well. :cry: Though not in the centre tunnel.

Hmm yes I did think about the wheel problem. Still looking for ideas. As well as the meshing in the side pod to stop stones from entering there. It only has three sides to attach mesh to the side pods.

All the OE plastic covers fit as well. Will decide at a later date whether to go Carbon fibre covers or not. But will look a little OE with the covers.

5exiAdam 28th July 2009 16:32

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Originally Posted by DavidH (Post 13594)
Wow nice decision, will be very interesting in how it goes, must admit that engine is on my wishlist for the car if I decide to upgrade in the future.

There are a few of us now.

HELP!!!!!!

5exiAdam 28th July 2009 21:17

Now have an engine gearbox loom ecu.

The lump i have is an ayp from an ibiza. (The only time you will get me near Ibiza, i can tell you!)

Not the best start, as i thought it was a leon. Apparently it has a Revo Stage 2 remap to 200bhp. But everyone who understands remaps seems to think revo are poo!

Anyway, at least i have something to start making engine and gearbox mounts with!

Any ideas?

limpabit 29th July 2009 05:27

To be honest, most of the engines look the same with just different head or turbo. So still a good buy in my opinion.

As for the ECU. If you are planning to go high spec in the fiuture, as you spoke about before, then ditch the ECU NOW. Or when your read to start that section of the build. Before the wiring at the engine starts. Wire once with one ECU. This is not to cut costs my quite a bit of time wiring!

High spec engines will probably just be an engine swap.

As for the mounts, you could approach Marlin as the are making some for Steve (nutter). You will have the same setup as him. Though if they have to modify the chassis, that maybe is a whole different ball game.

5exiAdam 29th July 2009 07:52

I will start having a look at it all soon. I have some H-Frame trolley bases that i need to weld some uprights and top bars to so i can sit the car on them.

Just starting to look at what bracing i can add to the chassis.

Engine mounts will be next, after i have cleaned the engine and shed some weight from it to help move it round a bit!

I will pop a pic up in a bit of the engine, on a pallet in the back of my car. It took me an hour and a half to get home and it was only 50 miles.

I had to slow down for every corner, to stop it toppling over and taking a route through the rear doors!

craig 29th July 2009 10:46

John, You have made huge progress not long now!

How long have you been off the road?

Mine has not been driven in about 10 months now but like you nearly there.
I'm looking forward to your first drive post.

Craig

limpabit 29th July 2009 14:51

Hi Craig.

Yeah mines been off the road about the same time as you. 18/10 it came back on a low loader.

I'm looking forward to the thing moving again now as well. Though will be running low to no boost until I get it onto the rolling road. Need to fit bigger injectors for the bigger turbo when I go and get it mapped.

Next step after this little lot is getting the exhaust done (end of Sept).

What have you been upto with yours?

craig 29th July 2009 21:45

Nothing like what you have done John and I don't have the time I used to have before I had the little one!

I have sprayed it all which was a lot more time consuming than I first thought as the gel coat although looked ok (ish) when primed was full of millions of pin holes everywhere!!

Bought new alloys and tyres which are on now so just need to reset geo and I'm back on road hopefully!

Oh and painted some of the chassis with that black shit that if it spills on your drive won't come off.

ps are you doing the exhaust yourself as in stainless it's surprisingly easy to make and weld? As you know I have exits in a different place to everyone else but twas simple to weld stainless

limpabit 29th July 2009 22:10

I do like the way you have done your exhaust. The way it exits.

But have never welded before so doing this it is a no no more me. Let alone stainless ( I believe it takes a different approach to welding or is that ally?).

So going here.

http://www.zorstec.net/kit_cars_flash.htm

Got a good price and mandel bent with 3".

craig 29th July 2009 22:48

Yeah thats ally I tried that for the induction but it's a total bitch! never again.

Stainless was for me 10 times easier than normal metal, any setting seemed to produce excellent results but if you have a good price from a pro it's always going to be better!

I would like a back box made with larger pipes but think it would be £££'s

alackofspeed 30th July 2009 12:00

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Originally Posted by craig (Post 16356)

I have sprayed it all which was a lot more time consuming than I first thought as the gel coat although looked ok (ish) when primed was full of millions of pin holes everywhere!!

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nutter 30th July 2009 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by limpabit (Post 16345)
As for the mounts, you could approach Marlin as the are making some for Steve (nutter). You will have the same setup as him. Though if they have to modify the chassis, that maybe is a whole different ball game.

I reckon my mounts will be different, as Im on the race chassis. Not the standard Marlin chassis.

craig 31st July 2009 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by alackofspeed (Post 16360)

Very soon John, can't get pics until it's driveable again which hopefully will be sun/mon

5exiAdam 3rd August 2009 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutter (Post 16361)
I reckon my mounts will be different, as Im on the race chassis. Not the standard Marlin chassis.

Are there any pics of the race chassis?

I am looking to be beefing up my chassis and covering the tub in aluminium honeycombe material to try and stiffen it up as much as possible.

I think i will replace the whole back end section to make it stronger.

Pics coming soon!

adam

limpabit 4th August 2009 05:11

I'll video the session on the rolling road. Hopefully see how the chassis is acting under load. Will hopefully show where the weaknesses are.

alackofspeed 4th August 2009 06:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by limpabit (Post 16380)
I'll video the session on the rolling road. Hopefully see how the chassis is acting under load. Will hopefully show where the weaknesses are.

In all seriousness John, I really hope your chassis doesn't deflect enough to be visible on the rolling road! That'd be a quite alarming amount of deflection.

chrislandy 4th August 2009 07:06

it's deflection whilst cornering that you can't see on the rollers though

limpabit 4th August 2009 07:06

The reason I say this, I remember talking to either John (Marlinturbo) or Grant about there 5EXI. at the time, it was running in on about the 300bhp mark. They could see the rear of the car "bend at the rear" under full throttle down the road!

chrislandy 4th August 2009 07:09

:jaw: :scared:


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